New msts installation please?

[slipperman]

Good Afternoon, Paul,
There would appear to be something awry with your system!
As far as I am aware, Open Rails doesn't "crash to the Desktop", as MSTS does, but displays some message which would be supported by the log (OpenRailsLog.txt) on your Desktop.

Cheers,
Ged
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[oper190]

Paul just to be clear, are you running the Sim in Open Rails, or through MSTS? That sounds like how MSTS handed errors, not OR.

[pcohen]

Hello again Ged.

This Route Thames-Trent Version 3 ( Activity "The Twins to Sheffield") when run yesterday, Worked perfectly, It ran from end to end without any saves, and all the required Rolling Stock was Present with no headless or missing Trains. Thanks to your List.

I have done nothing else to this ROUTE, MSTS or my Computer since saving It to my External Hard Drive Yesterday. I have not even been here!

but when started, to try out it again earlier, It didn't last Ten Minutes!

You keep asking me whether I am using MSTS or Open Rails. I am sure I am using Open Rails.

When I open the game I have an Open Rails Screen where I have to select the route, Activity and the Loco Used, most times when starting and running an Activity the Activity Rolling stock is automatically loaded, I also have the option of running In auto Pilot Mode. hope this answers your question.

I am currently trying a new Idea, I have installed a fresh MSTS with the intention of Only Installing Thames-Trent Version 3 on It's own with none of my other Routes , apart from the Default Routes off course. with the Idea of getting this route working correctly before Installing any other Routes.

I hope this works! will let you know what happens.

many thanks again for the help.

Paul.

[pcohen]

Hi everybody,

Yet again It didn't work, crashed while I was out of Room.
About Ten minutes I think.

Hopefully Log File Attached.


Many thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Good Evening, Paul.
Thanks for the log file. Open Rails is failing due to sound problems, as shown in your previous log files.
You do not appear to have installed the required soundsets into the main SOUND folder (NOT the route's SOUND folder). Please install file ID 3290 (UKST_pt3_v1-0.zip). If you point the installer to your installation's 'root' folder (possibly C:/1MSTS), the sounds will be installed into the correct folder.

The above may not the complete answer to your problems, but it's a start!

I have run the activity up to Mill Hill (11 minutes) and don't see any of the missing .sms errors shown in your log.

Cheers,
Ged

EDIT : It appears that file ID 3290 was not included in Clive's list of required stock, cabview and sound files, together with several others. This is a full list :

CABS
UKTS_6952 (Jubcabv3.1)

COACHES
UKTS_29535 (exLMSP1BC (v2)

BR STEAM
UKTS_14330 (BR_RbltPat_45521) [for .sms file]
UKTS_25760 (BRDerbyBlack5s-v2.0)

SOUNDS
UKTS_3290 (UKST_pt3_v1-0)
UKTS_8362 (Class21sound)
UKTS_12258 (Class_47_Sounds)
UKTS_12358 (Class_20_Sounds [includes update to 12258])

[oper190]

You keep asking me whether I am using MSTS or Open Rails. I am sure I am using Open Rails.

When I open the game I have an Open Rails Screen where I have to select the route, Activity and the Loco Used, most times when starting and running an Activity the Activity Rolling stock is automatically loaded, I also have the option of running In auto Pilot Mode. hope this answers your question.

Yes, it seems you are using OR, just wanted to be sure.

As a long time MSTS user when first switching to OR, I often hit the MSTS Icon instead of OR, out of habit.

[pcohen]

Hi everybody again,

Not sure what Is going on here.

Having now Re Installed Thames-Trent V3 with all the additional Rolling Stock required, when trying to run the Activity I am told
that Open Rails detected A track section which Is not present in
tsection.dats and cannot continue.

Most likely you dont have the XTracks or YTracks version needed for this Route?

BUT, XTracks and YTracks 01 &02 are most definitely Installed, as Is default-track-atrack-01apr25 but it will not start.

Log File attached.
OpenRailsLog.zip
Any Ideas please.

Many thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Good Evening, Paul,
Thames-Trent does NOT need Xtracks or YTracks!
That message from OR can be misleading! I suspect that you do not have the correct tsection.dat file in your GLOBAL folder.
The documentation specifies :

New roads and UKFS are required for the route to run.

If you install NewRoads v4 (file ID 6254) it will also add tsection.dat build #38. Please note you CAN use a later version.
I'm assuming you already have UKFS installed!

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Hello again Ged, I keep coming back like a bad penny!

copied and Installed NewRoads v4 (file ID 6254) but received the following message:-

ERROR Bad CRC'

This indicates that your setup file might be corrupted.

Don't know what to do next!

thanks

Paul.

[baldwin]

download again and try that one.

Mervyn

[oper190]

Don't know what to do next!

Paul - I tired that file also and got the same result. Even tried Compatibility Mode and no joy.
Try this one, it's the one for New Roads V4 that I am using: a basic Zip file: https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=80272

[pcohen]

Hello everybody again.

When Installing the Thames-Trent Route there are !3 Freight Activities and 28 Passenger Activitiies.

Do I need to Install all of these Activities or just The Activity that I'm am running/using.

Thanks

Paul.

[eric]

Open Rails detected A track section which Is not present in
tsection.dats and cannot continue.

Most likely you dont have the XTracks or YTracks version needed for this Route?

This is a misleading error code that I've been trying to get fixed (it was supposed to be done for v1.6).

All it means is that you have a track in your route that's not in the TSection. Either your route has a custom TSection and shouldn't be using Derek's standardized v60, or you don't have v60 in your Global directory.

[pcohen]

Hi Eric, thanks for your reply.

I do have TSection 60 and it Is Installed,

Thanks

Paul..

[pcohen]

Hi everybody

Don't understand this anymore.

This Is what I have now Installed

default-track-atrack-01apr25
mstspatch1_7_051922
Newroads_files
scalerail
scaleroad
SView22
shapeviewerdds
tsection60
ukfs_v3.1.6_full
ukfs-fix2
UKTS_3290_UKST_pt3_v1-0.exe (Sound File)
YTracks 01 & 02

BUT, Yet again It will not load because It Is still asking for XTracks!

Do they have to be Installed In a particular order please?

That's all I can think of.

Many thanks

Paul.