New msts installation please?

[baldwin]

default-track-atrack-01apr25
Newroads_files
scalerail
scaleroad
ukfs_v3.1.6_full
ukfs-fix2
YTracks 01 & 02
These are all unpacked into the Global/Shapes folder and will install in there in filename order, tsection.dat goes in the Global folder. The sounds exe will place its files into a trainset folder. The UKFS trackshapes are not needed for Thames-Mersey so will not be the cause of your error, but no need to remove them. The other stuff will install into whatever folders are needed. Bin patch is not needed if you are not running MSTS.

I was originally running this route on Xtracks with tsection42UK with no errors. I changed over this morning to the new Atracks and tsection60 and still have no errors.

Mervyn

[pcohen]

Hi Mervyn.

Think It's time to give this one a miss.

I have re-Installed and overwritten all the above which are already in the Global Folder. Still no Joy.

Still asking for XTracks!

Thanks

Paul.

[pcohen]

I have no explanation for this whatsoever. Will need somebody with more experience with MSTS than me.

Decided to Install XTracks anyway to see what happens, and surprise, surprise It's working but with some Issues.

Have run from St. Pancras to Luton so far. But still some Issues with The Rolling Stock.

What originally was a Light Steam Engine at Cricklewood Station
and then turned out to be a Steam Engine + Passenger Coaches Is now Passenger Coaches without a Steam Engine, Ho, Ho.

I did ask if I needed all the Freight and Passenger Activity Stock to Run Thames-Trent or just the stock for the Activity that I am running, but have had no reply yet.

Will try Installing the Rolling Stock Again and see what happens.

Many thanks

PAUL.

[oper190]

I did ask if I needed all the Freight and Passenger Activity Stock to Run Thames-Trent or just the stock for the Activity that I am running, but have had no reply yet.

You only need to install those you want to run.
Though I did not run many UK Routes or often, I am downloading Thamas Trent V3 to see how it runs or me.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
You only NEED to install the stock used by the activity, but how do you know what that is? Not all activities contain a list of required stock.
If you want to know what stock an activity uses, as I suggested before, run MSTS_ActMan, select the activity, then press the button "Stock used by selected activity". This will give a list of stock folders expected - I appreciate that the file IDs aren't shown but without a large database, that's not possible (but it's an idea for an enhancement!!).

Regarding your missing engine, use F7 to identify the consist, then open it in NotePad to check which engine is used - the line to check is EngineData ( [filename] [foldername] ). Use that data to check that your TRAINSET folder contains that [foldername]. If it doesn't, then you need to install it. If it does, open it and find the [filename].eng file. If it's present, open it in NotePad - if you DO NOT see normal letters and numbers. that is the problem (I have seen this on another route!), so download and reinstall the loco.

NOTE : If Explorer is configured NOT to show file extensions, the [filename] in the [foldername] won't be followed by .eng

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

You will see that when you Download Thames-Trent their Is a Listing for the stock required. and some Is Installed with the Activity.

Paul.

[pcohen]

Thames-Trent now completed end to end no problems, apart from
My Trainset needs Tweaking.

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
Well, that sounds like good news, or is it? You've reported before that the route is working OK, then, next day, it isn't.
There's no reason why it should work one day and not the next, UNLESS you've made some changes.

What do you mean by :

My Trainset needs Tweaking

Silly question - Before you switch your PC off, do you let Windows close down properly by using the Shut Down option?

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Hi Ged. Always wait for Computer to shut Down correctly before Turning anything off.

Don't understand why I got Thames-Trent working by Installing XTracks when told not to, but at the end of the day all I want is a working Trainset!

My quote "Trainset needs tweaking" Most if not all of my Goods Trains seem to be Missing their Guards Van, may have missed something when Installing the Stock..

Going out shortly, Granddaughter's 18th Birthday. Will be back late Evening.

Thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
When you added XTracks, it also added the tsection.dat build #38 file into the GLOBAL folder. Therefore, although you said you'd installed tsection.dat build #60, I suspect it's not in the correct location (ie GLOBAL).

I previously suggested that you download file ID 6254 New Roads v4, which adds tsection.dat Build #38. Unfortunately, it is no longer available (why?) You probably followed Geary's suggestion to download and install file ID 80272 New Roads v4 - this DOES NOT add the tsection.dat file, BUT it's download screen DOES mention that requirement..

Regarding brakevans, the documentation specifies the following three are required :
file ID 14806 (BR_D506_Brakevan, 31167 (exLMS_Brakevans) and 31702 (BR_Brakevan_D507_VacPiped)
The .zip file names and the TRAINSET folder names are as shown in brackets - you should check they are present.

Cheers,
Ged

[oper190]

Just gave Thoms-Trent V3 a quick explore run. no problems encounter, but some missing track pieces, Will install UKFS, as I installed with the Chiltern Route which already had UKFS shapes installed in Global, but perhaps the complete set was not there. Otherwise was running OK.

Edit: UKFS installed no longer missing track shapes. Ran 15 minute in Explore no problems with a consist I knew was valid.
Edit 2 - If you have a newer TSection file then it should be okay, they are cumulative, any build higher than 38 should contain all the pieces that 38 had with newer pieces added. It's not a god idea to go backward as other routes you run may need a newer version and thus not work.

[pcohen]

Hi Ged, Many thanks again.

I Added tsection 60 after installing MSTS..

Thanks

Paul.

[pcohen]

Well what do you Know?

Thames-Trent V.3 Activity" The Twins to Sheffield"

Route now Completed Three Times without any Issues.

All Rolling Stock In place with no front or rear end problems.

Guessing now, All OK.

Two small Issues regarding Stock:-

Whe re-Installing the Rolling Stock required for the Route,
Item 30161 could not be found and Ged's Rogue loco at Wellingborough travelling Tender First?

Downloaded and Installed UKTS_30245_Wellingborough_9Fs but stil the same In the Activity

Apart from that everything Is running smoothly.

Thanks again to all of you for your help, assistance and your patience!

thanks

Paul.

[baldwin]

I have run the twins activity a couple of time now, but have never seen a tender first 9f at Wellingborough, however it would not be unusual for that to happen if it was on a local working with no turning facility for the return trip.

As an aside to this I was disappointed at the performance of the twins in OR so have added some OR only physics to them and the coaches in the consist, I have also started to rework the activity by changing station arrival/departure times after spending a lot of time consulting 1972 timetables and an Ian Allen rail atlas. The atlas was used to roughly calculate some of the station times because they are not in the timetables I used. Came pretty close on the first couple after Kettering but over estimated the rest of the time to Sheffield. Next is to correct those times, and add some more AI trains as they get rather sparse after leaving Kettering, with a solitary freight after leaving Nottingham. This is my first time at working with an activity and altering someone else's work to suit OR instead of MSTS.

[pcohen]

Hi Mervyn, thanks for your reply

The tender first 9f at Wellingborough was first seen by Ged.

Thanks

Paul.