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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #61
    Hi baldwin, thanks very much for your reply.

    Not sure about playing with sound Files but will certainly have a look.

    Thanks

    Paul.

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    • pcohen
      1000 Post Veteran


      • Jul 2007
      • 1294
      • Wrexham North Wales UK

      #62
      Hi baldwin. again.

      Took a chance and copied the sound Files from the Diesel loco 10000 to the MSTS Sound Folder because they were not Listed there.

      Hope this was correct.

      Will now run "The Twins to Sheffield" again and see what happens.

      Thanks

      Paul.

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      • baldwin
        6000 Post Veteran


        • Nov 1999
        • 6358
        • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
        • ORTS

        #63
        Hi Paul
        The sounds will not work from the main Sounds folder but no harm done in copying them. If you do not like messing with sounds, do you have the default Dash9 and GP38 installed. By default the twins are setup to use the Dash9 sounds and the gp38 cabview.

        Mervyn
        Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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        • pcohen
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #64
          Hi Mervyn, thanks for the reply.

          Are you talking about the Original Microsoft Train Simulator Files, If so Yes, I do have the default Dash9 and GP38 installed.

          Thanks

          Paul.

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          • oper190
            1000 Post Veteran



            • May 2010
            • 1498
            • Port Charlotte, FL
            • English
            • MSOR

            #65
            Originally posted by pcohen
            This Is the List I have, I thought these were the File ID's
            Paul try searching here using only "UKTS_numbers" only and you should get the file to download.

            EG:

            search101.jpg
            Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
            Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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            • slipperman
              3500 Post Veteran



              • May 2010
              • 3787
              • Worksop, UK
              • MSOR

              #66
              Hi Paul,
              The list you posted is for the activities included with the Thames - Trent v3 route (original stock list), NOT the "Twins to Sheffield" activity. I should correct my previous post - a list of file IDs IS included in the "Twins to Sheffield" download and is shown as the 'bulk download' list, but I only found one (29535) which wasn't included in the original stock list.

              I have run the activity up to Luton without any problems, except that either I need to improve my driving skills or the .eng files need tweaking for Open Rails!!

              If you're still missing some stock, I suggest that you run MSTS_ActMan, select the 'twins' activity then press the "Stock used by select'd Activity' button. This will show a list of all the stock folders used by the activity - those shown in red are not present in the TRAINSET folder (or they don't have the correct folder name). If you have any red entries, post details here and we'll do our best to sort them out for you.

              Following on from oper290's earlier post, I suggest that you do not search for UKTS_nnnnn because then you can get spurious occurrences where that ID is quoted in descriptions. I recommend that you use the file ID search - put the file ID you need (eg 38414 - ONLY the number) into the Keywords/Filename/File ID number box, click on 'Exact File ID', then click the Search button. If the file ID exists, you'll see the download screen almost immediately.

              Regarding his last post - that is NOT a good idea, as I mentioned above.

              Cheers,
              Ged

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              • pcohen
                1000 Post Veteran


                • Jul 2007
                • 1294
                • Wrexham North Wales UK

                #67
                Hi Geary, thanks again, but you have totally lost me.

                Not sure why I need this file, I am looking for the Missing Steam Loco's/Diesels Engines that are missing from several Freight Trains In the Activity.

                Thanks

                Paul

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                • baldwin
                  6000 Post Veteran


                  • Nov 1999
                  • 6358
                  • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                  • ORTS

                  #68
                  Hi Ged

                  The twins eng files are pure MSTS and have the supposed power at the rail as maxpower. Upgrade this to the actual power rating of 1760 and you will be able to keep to time. Your train will be able to accelerate uphilI. I had to throttle back going through Kentish Town after doing that little change.

                  Mervyn
                  Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                  • slipperman
                    3500 Post Veteran



                    • May 2010
                    • 3787
                    • Worksop, UK
                    • MSOR

                    #69
                    HI,
                    @ Mervyn : Thanks for that

                    @ Paul : If you use MSTS_ActMan as I suggested, you'll be able to post a list of missing stock.
                    I have NO red entries in my list, but it's important to install the stock from the Thames Trent Stock List, following each item's readme to ensure correct installation. There are a few anomalies but, as far as I can see, they won't stop Open Rails from running - we can deal with them later!

                    Cheers,
                    Ged

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                    • slipperman
                      3500 Post Veteran



                      • May 2010
                      • 3787
                      • Worksop, UK
                      • MSOR

                      #70
                      Hi all (who are interested!)
                      I have just arrived at Wellingborough station!
                      A train, led by a tender was travelling in the reverse direction!!
                      It appears that all the .eng files in the "Wellingborough 9Fs" folder are compressed, but the common tender (.wag) isn't !!!

                      Problem is - compressed by what??

                      Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice! Just downloaded the file (30245) from the library and installed it into a different folder. This time, the .eng files are in the correct Unicode format !
                      Even curiouser - just reinstalled the pack from my original download and the files are now correct.
                      I can't even think of an answer!
                      I didn't consider checking the Last Modified dates of the .eng files but have just rerun the activity using Autopilot (very quickly!) up to Wellingborough and the loco is displayed correctly.

                      paul : I wonder if you've got the same 'funnies'. Can you please open the #92019.eng file with NotePad? Is it readable English or is it cobbledegook??

                      For information I'm using Stable v1.6 and Windows 10.

                      Cheers,
                      Ged
                      Last edited by slipperman; 09-22-2025, 16:38.

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                      • oper190
                        1000 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 1498
                        • Port Charlotte, FL
                        • English
                        • MSOR

                        #71
                        Originally posted by pcohen
                        Not sure why I need this file, I am looking for the Missing Steam Loco's/Diesels Engines that are missing from several Freight Trains In the Activity.
                        Saw your list, and took it to be a list of what you needed, using the one as an example.

                        Originally posted by slipperman
                        I suggest that you do not search for UKTS_nnnnn because then you can get spurious occurrences where that ID is quoted in descriptions. I recommend that you use the file ID search - put the file ID you need (eg 38414 - ONLY the number) into the Keywords/Filename/File ID number box, click on 'Exact File ID', then click the Search button. If the file ID exists, you'll see the download screen almost immediately.
                        That maybe a better way, I did several as I indicated and only the file came up, but others might give other files that aren't wanted. Good point made.

                        Geary
                        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                        Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                        • eric
                          9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                          • Dec 2002
                          • 9583
                          • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                          • English, SQL
                          • General

                          #72
                          Originally posted by pcohen
                          recently I was informed that a program called atracks had replaced XTracks
                          but having ReInstalled some new Routes found that Mid East Coast and
                          Thames_Trent_Version_3would ask for Xtracks and would not run until I
                          reinstalled Xtracks.
                          I wanted to hold off before responding to this... but now that you have things running...

                          ATracks is a set of replacement shapes for XTracks.

                          If you installed XTracks after installing ATracks, you overwrote the ATracks shapes with the 20+ year old XTracks shapes.

                          You can reinstall ATracks shapes after installing XTracks and it will replace the XTracks shapes.

                          If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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                          • pcohen
                            1000 Post Veteran


                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1294
                            • Wrexham North Wales UK

                            #73
                            Hi Eric, many thanks for your reply.

                            Really useful piece of Information.

                            Thanks

                            Paul.

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                            • pcohen
                              1000 Post Veteran


                              • Jul 2007
                              • 1294
                              • Wrexham North Wales UK

                              #74
                              Hi everybody, FINALLY!!!

                              Well I have now completed Thames-Trent end to end with no hiccups, no crashes and no Missing Stock or headless Trains.

                              Would like to gratefully thank all the following for their help, time and patience:-

                              Ged (Slipperman) your, F7 Key was a great Idea. baldwin, derekmorton, kraus, oper190, Mervyn, rdayt and more Importantly
                              anybody I may have missed.

                              I have now saved this Route, Activities and Current rolling Stock to my External Hard Drive.

                              Ged, "your post" I have just arrived at Wellingborough station!

                              Saw the same Loco going Backwards, but don't want mess with it and lose what I have.

                              Also used to go Backwards when I was firing, Hated It!

                              Many thanks again for all the incredible help.

                              Paul.

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                              • pcohen
                                1000 Post Veteran


                                • Jul 2007
                                • 1294
                                • Wrexham North Wales UK

                                #75
                                Scrap Post 74 Worked perfectly well Yesterday!!! today, crashing to desktop again.

                                Paul.

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