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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #46
    Hi Geary, thanks for your reply.

    This is a New Installation of MSTS with the Default Routes Installed + the Six new Routes Mentioned above installed.

    NOTHING has been Installed Since.

    Many thanks

    Paul.

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    • slipperman
      3500 Post Veteran



      • May 2010
      • 3787
      • Worksop, UK
      • MSOR

      #47
      Hi Paul,
      Apologies for the late response but I've been having hardware problems with my PC!
      Looking at the last log you posted, you have NOT INSTALLED a large number of stock items which are listed in the documentation for Thames - Trent v2 and v3.
      I'm still fixing my PC so may not be able to help further until after tomorrow!

      Cheers,
      Ged

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      • pcohen
        1000 Post Veteran


        • Jul 2007
        • 1294
        • Wrexham North Wales UK

        #48
        Thanks Ged, Still plodding on

        Paul.

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        • pcohen
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #49
          Hi everybody, silly question please.

          Is TrainStore still compatible/useable In MSTS Please?

          I seem to remember their was a setting for checking Activities & Rolling Stock.

          Hope this Is right?

          Many thanks

          Paul.

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          • pcohen
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Jul 2007
            • 1294
            • Wrexham North Wales UK

            #50
            Hi everybody, Here's my latest Info.

            Right or Wrong, (Probably wrong) by changing the Activity "The Twins to Sheffield" for a Consist of My Own,
            "IJ Class47 47701 blue + 10 MK2 Pullmans" FROM "tt_LMS_Twins+ 9 Mk1M" The Activity now runs end to end with
            no Saves and without crashing to the Desktop!

            On the assumption that the Steam Loco TTTS_003A seen at at Cricklewood station at 10:16:34 Is Indeed a Light
            Loco Consist the Following Steam/Diesel Loco's In front of Goods Trains are missing:-

            TTTS_008, TTTS_010, TTTS_011 and TTTS_025. However, these Four Items are not showing In any MSTS Search Files.

            Apart from scrapping the Activity, Not sure what to do next. Does anybody else have this Activity running Please?

            Many thanks

            Paul.

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            • oper190
              1000 Post Veteran



              • May 2010
              • 1498
              • Port Charlotte, FL
              • English
              • MSOR

              #51
              Originally posted by pcohen
              Is TrainStore still compatible/useable In MSTS Please?

              I seem to remember their was a setting for checking Activities & Rolling Stock.
              Yes it is, the newest version with the Windows 7 update works on Windows 10 & 11. However it is better to use either TSRE Consist Editor or Conbuilder to check consists. Train Store will only show you what's missing, but those two programs show you what's missing and allow for easy replacement of missing stock with what you have.

              Per say TrainStore is not needed with Open Rails, as OR does not load everything active into memory like MSTS did.
              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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              • pcohen
                1000 Post Veteran


                • Jul 2007
                • 1294
                • Wrexham North Wales UK

                #52
                Hi Geary, thanks again for your reply.

                Just my luck again, done a search for TSRE but nothing found, I don't seem to have a lot of fun with File searches.

                Many thanks

                Paul.

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                • oper190
                  1000 Post Veteran



                  • May 2010
                  • 1498
                  • Port Charlotte, FL
                  • English
                  • MSOR

                  #53


                  Originally posted by pcohen
                  Just my luck again, done a search for TSRE but nothing found, I don't seem to have a lot of fun with File searches.
                  Here is the TSRE file in the Libary. https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=88791
                  This version is being updated by Eric and any problems can be discussed in the TSRE section of the Forums.

                  This is the ConBuilder download: https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=38868
                  CondBuilder is not fully compatible to newer Open Rails only rolling stock, and has some issues and limits, but it still might be the easier tool to use for editing consists and loss/static stock.
                  Last edited by oper190; 09-21-2025, 12:30.
                  Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                  Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                  • pcohen
                    1000 Post Veteran


                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1294
                    • Wrexham North Wales UK

                    #54
                    Hi Geary, thanks for the Two Download Files.

                    Paul.

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                    • pcohen
                      1000 Post Veteran


                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1294
                      • Wrexham North Wales UK

                      #55
                      Hi everybody.

                      MSTS still crashing to the Desktop in Thahes-Trent route, sometimes crashes after a few Minutes sometimes will run Full Route. All my other routes Installed are running Well.

                      Beginning to think I should leave this one well alone.

                      Here Is the Latest Log File.

                      Many thanks

                      Paul.
                      Attached Files

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                      • slipperman
                        3500 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 3787
                        • Worksop, UK
                        • MSOR

                        #56
                        Good Afternoon, Paul,
                        May I, please, put you right?
                        MSTS is NOT crashing because you're not running it!! You are running Open Rails and there appears to be a problem with the sounds in your installation of Thames Trent v3.
                        Also, you are missing at least 6 locos and some other items of rolling stock. Have you installed all the stock listed in the TTv3 documentation?

                        Cheers,
                        Ged

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                        • pcohen
                          1000 Post Veteran


                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1294
                          • Wrexham North Wales UK

                          #57
                          Hi Ged, nice to have you back.

                          This Morning I went through the Stock list supplied for TT3 and re Installed all the stock listed (which is listed in Various categories) Loaded the lot, but., alas the Activity is still crashing.

                          Will keep trying.

                          Thanks

                          Paul.

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                          • slipperman
                            3500 Post Veteran



                            • May 2010
                            • 3787
                            • Worksop, UK
                            • MSOR

                            #58
                            Hi Paul,
                            The "The Twins to Sheffield" activity has its own list of required stock. Unfortunately, only the folder names are given, not the file IDs. I'll go through that list this evening and see if I can create a list of file IDs - there are quite a lot so it might take me a while!!

                            Cheers,
                            Ged

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                            • baldwin
                              6000 Post Veteran


                              • Nov 1999
                              • 6358
                              • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                              • ORTS

                              #59
                              Hi Paul
                              I have just installed this activity into TT3 and run for about an hour so far, zero problems. Looked at your last log and unless I have overlooked something, can see no reason for the sound process hanging which is what caused your crash. The only possibility is the twins. As supplied they are looking for the default Dash9 for sounds. If that is not present OR may be giving up on trying to play them. They do have their own soundset in the 1000 sound folder, just needs the eng files to be changed to use them.
                              Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                              • pcohen
                                1000 Post Veteran


                                • Jul 2007
                                • 1294
                                • Wrexham North Wales UK

                                #60
                                Hi Ged, thanks again for the reply.

                                Hi Ged, thanks again for the reply.

                                This Is the List I have, I thought these were the File ID's

                                CABS
                                UKTS_18243_Class45-1
                                UKTS_18244_Class47-1
                                UKTS_19817_Class26-1
                                UKTS_20803_FowlerCabviews
                                UKTS_23453_Britannia_cabview

                                COACHES
                                UKTS_1020_Mk1SuburbanCrimson.v1.1
                                UKTS_3510_Mk1maroonCoaches.v4.0
                                UKTS_3571_Mk1RedAndCreamCoaches.v4.0
                                UKTS_16959_Maroon_GUVs
                                UKTS_16965_GUV_fix
                                UKTS_26515_Stanier_Coaches_Maroon
                                UKTS_26516_Stanier_Coaches_CC
                                UKTS_29596_exLMS_P1_CC_Maroon
                                UKTS_29989_exLMSP2B&C
                                UKTS_30160_exLMS_P2_Maroon
                                UKTS_30161_exLMS_NC_LMR

                                CREW
                                UKTS_7703_Crew_Aliases_1
                                UKTS_7759_Crew_Aliases_Library_1

                                DIESEL
                                UKTS_5453_FalconOrig
                                UKTS_29758_Class_28_Co_Bo
                                UKTS_30175_Thames_Trent_45s
                                UKTS_31280_Twins
                                UKTS_33098_Kestrel_2014

                                DMU AND PULLMAN
                                UKTS_2955_LUCOCPV2
                                UKTS_24401_RF_Blue_Pullman
                                UKTS_24403_RF_Blue_Pullman_FIX
                                UKTS_29706_Class_127
                                UKTS_30078_RF_Blue_Pullman_engfix

                                MIDLAND AND BR STEAM
                                UKTS_26420_BR_Holbeck_Britannias
                                UKTS_29342_MML_Fowler_Tanks_Version_1
                                UKTS_29690_Market_Harborough_G2s_Version_1.2
                                UKTS_30123_Hawthorn_Leslie_0-6-0_ST
                                UKTS_30184_Bedford_Ivatt_Tanks
                                UKTS_30185_Cricklewood_Ivatt_4MT_Version_1.1
                                UKTS_30190_Cricklewood_4Fs
                                UKTS_30191_Cricklewood_Standard_4_2-6-0_Locos
                                UKTS_30192_Derby_Ivatt_Locos
                                UKTS_30200_Derby_Jubilees
                                UKTS_30201_Kentish_Town_Fowler_3F_Tanks
                                UKTS_30202_Kentish_Town_Jubilees
                                UKTS_30203_Kentish_Town_Royal_Scots
                                UKTS_30211_MML_Standard_2_Locos
                                UKTS_30204_Kettering_Ivatt_Locos
                                UKTS_30212_MML_Black_Fives
                                UKTS_30213_MML_Standard_2_Tanks
                                UKTS_30214_MML_Standard_4_4-6-0_Locos
                                UKTS_30232_MML_Standard_5_Locos
                                UKTS_30234_Nottingham_Jubilees
                                UKTS_30235_St_Albans_Fairburn_Tanks
                                UKTS_30236_St_Albans_Fowler_3F_Tanks
                                UKTS_30244_Toton_8Fs
                                UKTS_30245_Wellingborough_9Fs
                                UKTS_30246_Wellingborough_Crosti_9Fs
                                UKTS_30247_Toton_Garratts
                                UKTS_30427_Square_Bunker_Garratt_47998
                                UKTS_30644_MML 2P Tender Locos
                                UKTS_30788_MML_4P_Compounds
                                UKTS_33035_A2-1
                                UKTS_33039_35A_V2

                                MISCELLANEOUS
                                UKTS_30106_Invisible_Weights
                                UKTS_30154_Invisicarriages

                                SOUNDS
                                UKTS_2896_3cSndSetV1-2
                                UKTS_2910_2cSndSetV1-1
                                UKTS_2919_UKwhistles1-0
                                UKTS_3922_26_27sound
                                UKTS_3911_Class_26-27_Sound_Package

                                WAGONS
                                UKTS_11568_BR_12T_Standard_Vans
                                UKTS_14126_BR_Cattle_Vans
                                UKTS_14353_BR_D504_Brakevan_Piped
                                UKTS_14534_BR_Presflo
                                UKTS_14806_BR_D506_Brakevan
                                UKTS_15505_BR_Ore_Tipplers
                                UKTS_16857_exLMS_Van_Pack1
                                UKTS_19330_BR_Tube_Wagons
                                UKTS_21573_exLMS_Unfitted_5p_Pack
                                UKTS_23549_21&24T_rebodiedMin_Pack
                                UKTS_23749_BR_16T_Min_Pack1
                                UKTS_23868_BR_exMR_Outside_Frame_Vans
                                UKTS_25689_exLMS_Van_Pack3
                                UKTS_30125_Corby_Slag_Carriage
                                UKTS_30434_BrakeTendersV1
                                UKTS_31167_exLMS_Brakevans
                                UKTS_31701_BR_ConflatP
                                UKTS_31702_BR_Brakevan_D507_VacPiped
                                UKTS_33101_BR_Coke_Hoppers
                                UKTS_38414_ch_ICI_Bogie_Hopper_40T

                                Thanks again.

                                Paul.




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