New msts installation please?

[slipperman]

Hi,
May I, please, correct Paul?
I saw a tender ONLY leading the consist - the 9F loco was missing. I found out that the .eng file was, somehow, in a sort of compressed format - definitely not Unicode! How, when and why it happened, I don't know, but on re-installing, all was OK.
This was the second time I have seen .eng files in such a format since using OR Stable 1.6, BUT I have no evidence to link the two - it could just have been coincidences. However, when I see reports of missing locos my first suggestion has been to check the format of the .eng file/s concerned.

Cheers,
Ged

[eric]

Still asking for XTracks!

That is a false alarm telling you the TSection is out of date. If you get that, reinstall TSection v60 or higher. DON'T install XTracks.

I'd asked the ORTS team over a year ago to correct that because it doesn't matter what track system is used and not recognized, ORTS says you need XTracks, which only makes the problem worse.

When you added XTracks, it also added the tsection.dat build #38 file into the GLOBAL folder. Therefore, although you said you'd installed tsection.dat build #60, I suspect it's not in the correct location (ie GLOBAL).

I agree -- and by installing XTracks you also overwrote ATracks if it's used by the route.

[slipperman]

Hi Eric,

and by installing XTracks you also overwrote ATracks if it's used by the route.

Thank you. As they are older UK routes, they do not use the new ATracks system which you've made available.

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Here we go with another try.

Thames-Trent currently not working again.

I have re-Installed and run Dorset Coast Route V6 "Activity The London and Dorset Wanderer" but It crashed to the Desktop after 60 Miles some 12 Miles short of Fareham.

This Is what I have intalled so far:-

default-track-atrack-01apr25
mstspatch1_7_051922
Newroads_files
scalerail
scaleroad
SView22
shapeviewerdds
tsection60
ukfs_v3.1.6_full
ukfs-fix2
UKTS_3290_UKST_pt3_v1-0.exe (Sound File)
YTracks 01 & 02

as with the last MSTS Installation, XTracks was requested, So I installed It, then
overwrote It with "default-track-atrack-01apr25" Hope this Is correct.

Log file sent again.

Thanks

Paul.

[oper190]

as with the last MSTS Installation, XTracks was requested,

Paul - Have you noted Eric's comments that OR sends that XTracks message even when X-Tracks is not required. I did not see any missing track shapes reported in your log, but you are missing plenty of sound files and rolling stock required for your activity and/or the Route in general. Have you read all documents for what is required for this route or the activity?
NOTE - As posted I downloaded Thamas Trent V3 and saw missing track pieces. I got no error "Xtracks Missing" and ran fine, I then installed the complete UKFS track system and now runs with all track showing. I ran an Explore with a train set I had, as I haven't downloaded all the rolling stock required, and all was A-OK.

Again I'd suggest running an explore using the path for the player train from this activity with a consist you know is working correctly. If you run though without errors then the problem lies within the activity itself, not the Route or you installation. Most likely missing things that are needed.

You are wasting a lot of time and aggravation reinstalling things needlessly. If OR is running OK with one route than not another, the problem is with the Route not your install per say. Most likely missing requirements for that route. Also with all your reinstalls you may well be over writing things you corrected, thus why a route you ran before now doesn't work.

You really need a consist editor to check you activities for missing equipment before running them.

Geary

[oper190]

Thames-Trent currently not working again.

Paul when you say this, are you running the same activity or a different one?

If running a different activity, as I suspect, then you are missing required rolling stock and/or sound files it needs. If so then there is probably nothing wrong with the route or you OR install, you just need to use/install the required stock, or replace it with what you have.

Geary

[oper190]

I have re-Installed and run Dorset Coast Route V6 "Activity The London and Dorset Wanderer" but It crashed to the Desktop after 60 Miles some 12 Miles short of Fareham.

Paul as this is not included with the route as downloaded, I take it is was an add-on activity, or from an older version of the route.

I quote from the Documentation that came with the download:
NOTES
1. Many of the Dorset Coast activities in the trainsim.com library are for earlier versions of the route. File ID 79575 (dorsetv6fixedpaths.zip) might be useful for replacing any broken paths
(but this is not guaranteed) when running those activities in v6 of the route. All paths supplied with this compilation have been checked and appear to be valid for v6.
2. This pack is the complete route and is unsuitable for updating the CD version. A compilation suitable for updating that version may be released in the future.


Ged Saunders (slipperman/slipperman12)

Perhaps that is your problem?

[pcohen]

Hi Geary, thanks for the reply.


"Activity The London and Dorset Wanderer" Is a Version 6 Activity.

Never had Issues/problems with it before.

Thanks

Paul.

[eric]

If you are going to reinstall all those things, the LAST item you should install is the TSection 60, since UKFS and others might replace it with an older version.

[oper190]

"Activity The London and Dorset Wanderer" Is a Version 6 Activity.

Paul only asked as the download only had one activity included, not that one.

[pcohen]

Hello again.

I appreciate that everybody Keeps teling me to Ignore/leave XTracks alone.

But having Installed the Items below Into Global Shapes as per Instructions

default-track-atrack-01apr25
Newroads_files
scalerail
scaleroad
ukfs_v3.1.6_full
ukfs-fix2
YTracks 01 & 02

None of my Routes will Install without gettting a request for XTracks?

As soon as I Install XTracks My Routes seem to load and work.

I have currently Installed a fresh DEFAULT copy of MSTS with the above Items Installed
and with nothing else Installed..

But don't know how to proceed further without getting around this problem.

Many thanks

Paul.

[oper190]

Paul if installing Tracks fixes it fine, go ahead. If they're not really needed it won't hurt.

As I've tried to explain, if you do your install and things work, then you're good. I strongly suggest you run an Explore of the routes first with a known good consist. Granted it wastes a little time, but in the end you know you are good. Then when running an Activity and things go bonkers, it's the Activity that is at fault, not your install. It's highly unlikely that your basic install will go bad, unless something was overwritten with a new add-on.

Seeing your error logs, it appears to be mostly missing rolling stock and sounds that are the problems. As noted when installing and running an Explore with a known consist on Thames-Trent I got no error about missing Xtracks, yet saw missing track pieces. My install was with the Chiltern Route which had only a few regular track pieces and the rest UKFS. Once I installed a complete set of UKFS tracks into Global / Shapes all was good.

When downloading activities, most likely none of the rolling stock is included. Hopefully the creator included some sort of document with a list of what was needed. Also keep in mind the older the activity is, the less likely all the rolling stock needed will be available now. Also many Activity creators used payware rolling stock that you might not have or be able to get anymore.

Also a thought, when installing the tsection file, are you putting it in the Global Folder? Each route contains it's own tsection file associated for that route only, and it needs to be kept there nor replaced.
Keep a back-up of the tsection you are using somewhere in case it's replaced by an add-on with an older version. Note it is a text document so can be opened with any program that reads text files. Right at the top you'll see this:

SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0F0t______
_INFO ( Build 00058b )

So of you are using bld 60 and it's now any lower number it had been replaced, so simply copy your backup into Global to replace it.

Geary

[baldwin]

Ged
The Atracks set is a completely new set of track sections using the same basic geometry as Xtracks and same track section names, the rails are much finer, similar to UKFS rails. I have used them as a direct Xtracks replacement with no issues so far.

[pcohen]

Hi Geary, thanks for the Information

Cheers

Paul.

[pcohen]

Ged's steam Loco at wellingbourough Is a Black Loco with It's Tender on the front.

Reloaded UKTS_30245_Wellingborough_9Fs but no changes were made.

Not sure what to do with this?

Thanks

Paul.