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  • erielackawanna
    Senior Member
    • Nov 1999
    • 245
    • Jct of the NS Southern Tier an, New York.

    #61
    Hi Marc,

    Thank you for updating your Scale Rail track pieces for OR.

    I am interested in converting a version of a route project that I am involved in to Scale Rail. The time period represented by the route is from the mid/late 1920s to the early 1950s, before the implementation of CTC on one of the railroad lines modeled. During this period, most, if not all, of the mainlines of the Class 1 virtually depicted on the route in reality had trackage and ballast in less manicured condition than say, the PRR mainline from NYC to DC.

    Would you be open to the idea of creating additional Scale Rail jointed rail track pieces with less pristine ballast that be more appropriate for modeling older looking routes?
    Last edited by erielackawanna; 05-16-2015, 09:14.

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    • OTTODAD
      1
      • Feb 2001
      • 32344
      • England
      • General

      #62
      Originally posted by erielackawanna
      I am interested in converting a version of a route project that I am involved in to Scale Rail.
      What tracks have you used so far creating it ?

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      • drelyea
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 661
        • Big Johnson City, TN

        #63
        Hi,

        These, from the TSection 44Beta.
        TristateTracksUsed.txt

        Doug Relyea
        Making stuff that works, using outdated Software on outdated Hardware.sigpic

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        • eolesen
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          • Dec 2002
          • 9583
          • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
          • English, SQL
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          #64
          Doug/EL, you'll have your work cut out for you replacing the 375/750 curves and the 7-5 switches.


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          • drelyea
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 661
            • Big Johnson City, TN

            #65
            Hi,

            Yeah, this isn't an easy fix. I got Route Riter to make the report, and only glanced thru it quickly. I am surprised I didn't use the A10t30m piece in one of the yards somewhere. I seem to have used all the other a10t's. And 9's,8's,7's etc.

            Is there a way I can easily find which world file contains specific pieces?, Short of looking up the TrackSection number in the TSection.dat, for a specific track shape then manually searching the TDB?

            Doug Relyea
            Making stuff that works, using outdated Software on outdated Hardware.sigpic

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            • OTTODAD
              1
              • Feb 2001
              • 32344
              • England
              • General

              #66
              Originally posted by drelyea
              These, from the TSection 44Beta.
              If there are no compatible with Scalerail-2 X-Tracks shapes then you could use a X-Tracks trackbed Acleantrack1.ace which closely matches the trackbed of the one used by Scalerail-2, I have done using my wider DB-Tracks trackbed, showing it in one of my Scalerail Conversions posts ?

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              • eolesen
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                • Dec 2002
                • 9583
                • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                • English, SQL
                • General

                #67
                Doug, if you're interested, I'll email you a link to WFH. It will allow you to rip thru the entire route, and export the structured data out of the World files into Excel. Then you can filter the data as needed. You can also use it to do a filename replacement by individual W file.
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                • OTTODAD
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                  • Feb 2001
                  • 32344
                  • England
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by drelyea
                  Is there a way I can easily find which world file contains specific pieces?
                  There are programs which can FIND whatever in multiple Folders and their Files, like the UltraEdit32 I use can !

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                  • drelyea
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 661
                    • Big Johnson City, TN

                    #69
                    Hi,

                    Eric, if you'll PM me the link, that would work. I don't have Excel, but I think it'll open in OpenOffice 4.1.1. I want to at least see where some of the "exotic" stuff is like the A1t13_85mstrt. I thought all the 10d turnouts were up at Maybrook, NY, but I see some 10d Scissors, so there must still be some on the Lehigh Route that was merged in.

                    Ottodad, I've got Notepad++, I'll see what it can do with the World folder/ World files.

                    As I said, first I want to find some of the exotic stuff. The strange straights were probably used before the 44 Beta became available, with the .4m to .9m cinder and concrete pieces. Then I'll look at the switches. The 375's and 750's are probably not real doable (changing them) because of the terrain.

                    My Avatar derives from all the Terrain sculpting I've already done to put tracks and streams back in that I-80 obilterated, as well as other Interstates and Interstate standard highways (NY 17 Quickway, Modernized NY Thruway) I'm not about to resculpt the Roaring Brook or Paulin's Kill valleys just to not use those track sections.

                    Doug Relyea
                    Making stuff that works, using outdated Software on outdated Hardware.sigpic

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                    • Bananarama
                      5500 Post Veteran
                      • Nov 1999
                      • 5606
                      • Another Planet

                      #70
                      Originally posted by erielackawanna
                      Would you be open to the idea of creating additional Scale Rail jointed rail track pieces with less pristine ballast that be more appropriate for modeling older looking routes?
                      I've always left this up to the end user, and also why I'll release templates. A few tweaks in Photoshop is usually all it takes.
                      Cheers!

                      Melanie - 3DTrains

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                      • eolesen
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 9583
                        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                        • English, SQL
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                        #71
                        The jointed rail is a little more problematic to texture, in that the rail is a 128x128 texture, and the joints would have to be spaced every 39' or so.
                        If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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                        • OTTODAD
                          1
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 32344
                          • England
                          • General

                          #72
                          Originally posted by eric
                          The jointed rail is a little more problematic to texture, in that the rail is a 128x128 texture, and the joints would have to be spaced every 39' or so.
                          That would have to done in all the Acleantracks2.ace files of track sections which are multiples of 1 meter !

                          So a 10 meters track would need to show 9, but can not show fish plates and a 100 meters track 99 !

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                          • OTTODAD
                            1
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 32344
                            • England
                            • General

                            #73
                            Originally posted by eric
                            The jointed rail is a little more problematic to texture, in that the rail is a 128x128 texture, and the joints would have to be spaced every 39' or so.
                            There are no visible tracks joints showing at the ends of all track sections which have been placed in Train Simulators editors, but there are audible ones which can be varied in their *.SMS files, like I have done with RAILWAVES in my Ttype.dat files, supplying their variations years ago with the permission of their creators to those who have purchased them, sadly no longer available from then, having gone out of business and can not contact them to allow me to release their low cost ones as FREEWARE.

                            But their frequency then applies to all tracks in it, whether they are Mainline or Yards !








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                            • conductorchris
                              2500 Post Veteran

                              • Mar 2010
                              • 2905
                              • Vermont
                              • General

                              #74
                              Shawn Kelly made a jointed rail texture which looks pretty nice. Only problem is the joints aren't staggered, probably because that isn't possible in MSTS?
                              Christopher

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                              • drelyea
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 661
                                • Big Johnson City, TN

                                #75
                                Hi,

                                The Acleantrack2 currently in use in Tristate is a 2048 square. The joints show up in the Openrails...09-59-18.jpg. The train about to pass under the Pin connected S bridge in South Easton. It seems to me we've had a 512 square in the route prior to this one that also rendered the rail joints nicely. It becomes a bit problematic on track shapes less than 39 or 36 feet long.

                                The staggering of the joints would require access to the original shapes to offset the joints on one rail. Or the ability to change the mapping on the existing .s files. (which I don't endorse without getting permission from the original authors)

                                Doug Relyea
                                Making stuff that works, using outdated Software on outdated Hardware.sigpic

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