ScaleRail v2.0

[roeter]

A suggestion, what about maybe doing 3rd rail equipped tracks?? Something I would love to see in scale rail as it hasn't really been attempted in general..


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There's a very extensive set of 3rd rail track in UK Finescale, with even some 4th rail sections as well.
I don't think there would be any problems using both UK Finescale and Scale Rail track in one route.

Regards,
Rob Roeterdink

[eric]

Josh, third rail can "easily" be added by adding a separate "track animation" piece (manually or using WFH) to match up with the track sections.

On the CNW Chicago, I've been assigning anything with concrete tracks and a StaticDetailLevel of 3 gets a right handed rail, and _c_ with a SDL of 4 for gets a left handed rail. I got the idea after having to create right and left handed platform pieces... since there were only about a dozen pieces involved for the sections of CTA being modeled, it didn't take too long to crank out the variations.

[Bananarama]

A few more...
sr_v205.jpg sr_v206.jpg sr_v207.jpg sr_v208.jpg sr_v209.jpg

[qballbandit]

Great stuff, Marc.
Very much appreciate your efforts.

[longiron]

This looks to be the most realistic looking roadbed there is. Super work
chris

[OTTODAD]

Great looking rails and trackbeds for new MSTS / ORTS routes but can not be used for directly replacing X-Tracks in existing routes like I have done with DB-Tracks, unless all the new SR tracks use the same geometry for track sections, switches and crossovers ike X-Tracks and DB-Tracks do, named like these:

SRC_a1t10mStrt.s
SRW_a1t10mStrt.s

If the Tsection.dat could also be updated with all of them, Norbert had one for use by Protrain routes using his DB-Tracks, I have a couple of somewhere, then they could all be used in the same route together with those from other tracks creators already listed in the Tsection.dat, like UK-Finescale tracks with or without 3rd rail, I have also improved their appearance of, Tim Booth liked !

Double slips are a problem, the existing X-Tracks ones not being a good design which can be easily matched so that they can be replaced like plain tracks !

What still can not be done without using the HIDEWIRE utility is to have electrified with an overhead wire tracks as well as no overhead wires tracks in the same route !

[Bananarama]

I can easily make an SR replacement set for the default shapes, but I won't tackle the X-Tracks ones. There are just too many, and most of the time would be spent modeling the dozens of additional turnouts and crossovers.

[scfe_fan]

Even a replacement set for the default shapes would be greatly appreciated..


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[eric]

I don't think there are any default curves or straights missing. There were only 170 pieces to begin with. A few of the longer turnouts (2_5d and 870r4d?) aren't there but the 2_5 is in the TSection as reserved, and the missing 04d might line up with the 870r4d.

All the other exotics are Xtracks.

[kraus]

Track shapes SR_4tCrv_w_01000r20d.s and SR_4tCrv_c_01000r20d.s were just added with build 45 of tsection.dat.

[OTTODAD]

I can easily make an SR replacement set for the default shapes, but I won't tackle the X-Tracks ones. There are just too many, and most of the time would be spent modeling the dozens of additional turnouts and crossovers.

Yes, the latter was what Norbert started doing but he sadly ran out of time !

[geepster775]

The real issue is getting the most bang for the time investment buck. 90% of routes out there or in development would only need 1t or 2t xtracks shapes, especially the broader curved sections. Its the 10% of routes that require 3t or more and need the elaborate slip switches, etc that really built up the time requirements.

In that respect, for 90% of potential route territory, Norbert pretty much delivered. And as long as someone like Steven Masters can crank out additional route-specific oddball pieces on demand, little-used pieces needed to complete the conversion of specific routes, then everything is on target for that track system fulfilling its objectives even with Norbert's passing.

The question is whether Marc would feel that following the same trajectory would be worth his time. Lets not get so overwhelmed at the prospects of doing every oddball xtrack piece out there as part of a release. Say if 60 additional 2t xtrack pieces unlocks the conversion potential for the vast majority of routes, would that not be worth someone's time?

[eric]

Cautionary flag here, folks... Let's keep it on the topic of ScaleRail. I'm sure that someone could start up a thread to discuss Norbert's track system if Steven is actively trying to finish it out and looking for the feedback.

[Shawmut]

I can easily make an SR replacement set for the default shapes, but I won't tackle the X-Tracks ones. There are just too many, and most of the time would be spent modeling the dozens of additional turnouts and crossovers.

Marc, if you do, and if you provide a means for hiding that hideous open space between the tracks without having to resort to Mosaic, then this will be an instant buy for me. One of the reasons I was an enthusiastic user of DB and later UStracks was Norbert's wise decision to make his shapes as direct replacements of the default Kuju stuff. He later branched off into some Xtracks shapes (as he was the maintainer of Xtracks, too!) but as Otto noted, he sadly ran out of time. I think that one of the reasons that Tim Booth's UKFinescale track did not become more prevalent was his decision to model UK track spacing exactly rather than follow Kuju's rather un-scale prototype. While it is admirably scale in appearance because of that decision, it also made it that the average enthusiast could never use the system unless he wanted to develop his own route.

Dave

[Bananarama]

The problem in closing the gap is that doing so creates a noticeable pattern due to the way the sides are mapped (one side is flipped), plus the sides are stretched and are less appealing overall. The main ballast texture is 1024 x 1024, and I'm trying to maximize its use without having to use additional textures.

@Otto - Most of the pieces in your X-Tracks lists are not really new shapes, but are instead using different textures. I believe there were only 3 new initial turnouts created (4.7, 6.3 and 7.5); 4 if you count the 0 switch to fix the MSTS track node bug.