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  • csantucci
    Senior Member
    • Nov 1999
    • 856
    • Torino, Italy.

    #61
    Originally posted by kox
    And i can't use dynamic brakes too. It goes to set (0%), but no more. Throttle is checked too it's at 0%.
    Same happens to me in Bernina EMUs as well as in Ruebelandbahn electric loco RLB_171-003.eng. Dynamic brakes worked correctly in version 0_6_2.

    Carlo
    Last edited by csantucci; 12-17-2011, 15:34.
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    • longiron
      1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

      • Jan 2007
      • 1453
      • Just south of NYC

      #62
      Originally posted by csantucci
      Same happens to me in Bernina EMUs as well as in Ruebelandbahn electric loco RLB_171-003.eng. Dynamic brakes worked correctly in version 0_6_2.

      Carlo
      This may be the cause. Please make sure the notches in any combined throttle for eng and cvf match. See this thread: http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...post__p__78725
      Chris
      "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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      • csantucci
        Senior Member
        • Nov 1999
        • 856
        • Torino, Italy.

        #63
        Thanks Chris. The Ruebelandbahn loco however has no combined throttle (the Bernina EMUs do).
        In the Ruebelanbahn loco the .eng block about dynamic brakes is as follows:
        Brake_Dynamic ( 0 1 0.04 0
        NumNotches ( 1
        Notch ( 0 1 Dummy )
        )
        )
        and the related .cvf block is as follows
        Lever (
        Type ( DYNAMIC_BRAKE LEVER )
        Position ( 0 0 32 32 )
        Style ( SPRUNG )
        MouseControl ( 1 )
        NumFrames ( 0 0 0 )
        NumPositions ( 1 0 )
        NumValues ( 1 0 )
        Orientation ( 0 )
        DirIncrease ( 0 )
        ScaleRange ( 0 1 )
        )


        Carlo
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        • twpol
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 434
          • United Kingdom

          #64
          Originally posted by kox
          Is ShadowMap.fx is the only responsible shader for shadowing in OR? (i wonder because i just read railworks3 shadowing shaders because of the low performance, and it's 5x bigger in character number, and much more complex, with lots of conditional and branched parts)
          Not quite - it's the shader responsible for generating the shadow map. The SceneryShader "applies" the shadow map when drawing the scenery - it does almost all of the visual work so is much larger and more complex.
          James Ross
          Open Rails Management Team
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          • kox
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 329

            #65
            Originally posted by twpol
            Not quite - it's the shader responsible for generating the shadow map. The SceneryShader "applies" the shadow map when drawing the scenery - it does almost all of the visual work so is much larger and more complex.
            I see but it have much fewer if commands (what the GPU's don't run well) than railworks 3 shadowing shader have, so probably that's why the OR shadowing have so little performance impact.
            Last edited by kox; 12-18-2011, 08:23.
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            • hminky
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              • May 2009
              • 1114

              #66
              Clovis Sub Crashed

              I created an activity in Activity Generator for the Clovis Sub, the one in the TrainSim library. 5 hours plus into the activity it crashed.

              Harold
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              • longiron
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                • Jan 2007
                • 1453
                • Just south of NYC

                #67
                Originally posted by hminky
                I created an activity in Activity Generator for the Clovis Sub, the one in the TrainSim library. 5 hours plus into the activity it crashed.

                Harold
                It appears from the log that a pop up window tried to open (Activity message or one of the HUDs). Did you attempt to change/bring up a F# HUD when the problem happened?
                Chris
                "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                • hminky
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                  • May 2009
                  • 1114

                  #68
                  Originally posted by longiron
                  It appears from the log that a pop up window tried to open (Activity message or one of the HUDs). Did you attempt to change/bring up a F# HUD when the problem happened?
                  No I was just cruising along, not doing anything.

                  Harold

                  EDIT: I was running from a saved game point and ran the activity from there and got the same results every time and not at the same spot. Maybe up or down the line by a 100 feet.
                  Last edited by hminky; 12-21-2011, 15:55.

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                  • longiron
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                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1453
                    • Just south of NYC

                    #69
                    Originally posted by hminky
                    5 hours plus into the activity it crashed.
                    Harold
                    Was this a continuous 5 hour session, or 5 hours with Save & Restore of the game? I'm hoping Save & Restore, because no one on the team is looking forward to testing 5 hour activities to solve a potential issue. :>)
                    Chris
                    "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                    • hminky
                      1000 Post Veteran
                      • May 2009
                      • 1114

                      #70
                      Originally posted by longiron
                      Was this a continuous 5 hour session, or 5 hours with Save & Restore of the game? I'm hoping Save & Restore, because no one on the team is looking forward to testing 5 hour activities to solve a potential issue. :>)
                      I lost the original save. I loaded a fresh copy of OpenRails from a new directory. Ran from the save point and went further down the line. Saved that session. Now it won't run that save. Open Rails crashes. Forgot that the saves are all in the same AppData directory.

                      Since the log file won't upload here is the file.

                      "Open Rails is starting...

                      Version = 0.7.0.905
                      Build = 0.0.4362.22137 11/12/2011 12:17
                      Logfile = C:\Users\Big Sluggo\Desktop\OpenRailsLog.txt
                      ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
                      Alerter = (registry) True
                      BrakePipeChargingRate = 21
                      DataLogger = False
                      DynamicShadows = (registry) True
                      FullScreen = (registry) True
                      GraduatedRelease = (registry) True
                      Logging = True
                      LoggingFilename = OpenRailsLog.txt
                      LoggingPath = C:\Users\Big Sluggo\Desktop
                      MSTSBINSound = (registry) True
                      Precipitation = (registry) True
                      Profiling = False
                      ProfilingFrameCount = 1000
                      ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\Big Sluggo\Pictures\Open Rails
                      ShaderModel = 0
                      ShadowAllShapes = False
                      ShadowMapBlur = True
                      ShadowMapCount = 4
                      ShadowMapDistance = 0
                      ShadowMapResolution = 1024
                      ShowErrorDialogs = True
                      SoundDetailLevel = 5
                      TrainLights = (registry) True
                      UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
                      VerticalSync = False
                      ViewingDistance = 2000
                      ViewingFOV = 45
                      WindowGlass = (registry) True
                      WindowPosition_Activity = (registry) 50, 50
                      WindowPosition_Compass = (registry) 50, 0
                      WindowPosition_DriverAid = (registry) 100, 100
                      WindowPosition_Help = (registry) 30, 50
                      WindowPosition_NextStation = (registry) 0, 100
                      WindowPosition_Switch = (registry) 0, 41
                      WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = (registry) 0, 30
                      WindowPosition_TrainOperations = (registry) 50, 42
                      WindowSize = (registry) 1920x1080
                      Wire = (registry) True
                      WorldObjectDensity = 10
                      ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
                      Mode = Resume Activity
                      Activity = C:\Train Simulator\ROUTES\atsfcs\ACTIVITIES\First_Belen.act
                      ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
                      Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB CARSPAWN

                      Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\SD402\CABVIEW\sd402.cvf: line 242

                      Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Dash9\CABVIEW\dash9.cvf: line 125

                      Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Dash9\CABVIEW\dash9.cvf: line 133

                      Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Dash9\CABVIEW\dash9.cvf: line 125

                      Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Dash9\CABVIEW\dash9.cvf: line 133

                      Information: OpenAL using device DirectSound

                      ENV SIGCFG TTYPECSTTTTTTTTTWSSSSSSS

                      Information: c:\train simulator\routes\atsfcs\textures\acleantrack1.ace

                      Information: c:\train simulator\global\shapes\a2t500mstrt.s"

                      Need a better save mechanism.

                      Harold

                      EDIT: The saves at that point on the route were very slow.
                      Last edited by hminky; 12-21-2011, 17:38.

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                      • hminky
                        1000 Post Veteran
                        • May 2009
                        • 1114

                        #71
                        Marias Pass - Auto Train Setout Activity

                        Got this when I clicked on Work Order in the F1 window along with a lockup:

                        Open Rails is starting...

                        Version = 0.7.0.905
                        Build = 0.0.4362.22137 11/12/2011 12:17
                        Logfile = C:\Users\Big Sluggo\Desktop\OpenRailsLog.txt
                        ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
                        Alerter = False
                        BrakePipeChargingRate = 21
                        DataLogger = False
                        DynamicShadows = (registry) True
                        FullScreen = (registry) True
                        GraduatedRelease = (registry) True
                        Logging = True
                        LoggingFilename = OpenRailsLog.txt
                        LoggingPath = C:\Users\Big Sluggo\Desktop
                        MSTSBINSound = (registry) True
                        Precipitation = (registry) True
                        Profiling = False
                        ProfilingFrameCount = 1000
                        ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\Big Sluggo\Pictures\Open Rails
                        ShaderModel = 0
                        ShadowAllShapes = False
                        ShadowMapBlur = True
                        ShadowMapCount = 4
                        ShadowMapDistance = 0
                        ShadowMapResolution = 1024
                        ShowErrorDialogs = True
                        SoundDetailLevel = 5
                        TrainLights = (registry) True
                        UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
                        VerticalSync = False
                        ViewingDistance = 2000
                        ViewingFOV = 45
                        WindowGlass = (registry) True
                        WindowPosition_Activity = (registry) 50, 50
                        WindowPosition_Compass = (registry) 50, 0
                        WindowPosition_DriverAid = (registry) 100, 100
                        WindowPosition_Help = (registry) 30, 50
                        WindowPosition_NextStation = (registry) 0, 100
                        WindowPosition_Switch = (registry) 0, 40
                        WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = (registry) 0, 29
                        WindowPosition_TrainOperations = (registry) 50, 41
                        WindowSize = (registry) 1920x1080
                        Wire = (registry) True
                        WorldObjectDensity = 10
                        ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
                        Mode = Activity
                        Activity = C:\Train Simulator\ROUTES\USA2\ACTIVITIES\autotrnsetout.act
                        ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
                        Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB CARSPAWN

                        Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Dash9\CABVIEW\dash9.cvf: line 125

                        Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Dash9\CABVIEW\dash9.cvf: line 133

                        Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\DASH9\CABVIEW\dash9.cvf: line 125

                        Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\DASH9\CABVIEW\dash9.cvf: line 133

                        Information: OpenAL using device DirectSound

                        ENV SIGCFG TTYPECSTTTTTTTTTW

                        Information: Unknown world block Hazard (0x0000016D) first seen in C:\Train Simulator\ROUTES\USA2\World\w-012557+014760.w

                        SSSSSSS TRP(default)SSSSSSSSSSSSS$WSSSS$WWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSS$WWWSSSSSSSSSSSS$WSS$CCS C(repeats) CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

                        Error: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
                        at ORTS.Popups.HelpWindow.<>c__DisplayClassc.<.ctor>b __5(ControlLayout cl)
                        at ORTS.Popups.HelpWindow.Layout(ControlLayout layout)
                        at ORTS.Popups.Window.Layout()
                        at ORTS.Popups.HelpWindow.label_Click(Control control, Point point)
                        at ORTS.Popups.Control.OnClick(Point mouseControlLocation)
                        at ORTS.Popups.Control.MouseClick(WindowMouseEvent e)
                        at ORTS.Popups.Control.HandleMouseUp(WindowMouseEvent e)
                        at ORTS.Popups.ControlLayout.HandleMouseUp(WindowMous eEvent e)
                        at ORTS.Popups.ControlLayout.HandleMouseUp(WindowMous eEvent e)
                        at ORTS.Popups.ControlLayout.HandleMouseUp(WindowMous eEvent e)
                        at ORTS.Popups.ControlLayout.HandleMouseUp(WindowMous eEvent e)
                        at ORTS.Popups.ControlLayout.HandleMouseUp(WindowMous eEvent e)
                        at ORTS.Popups.WindowControlLayout.HandleMouseUp(Wind owMouseEvent e)
                        at ORTS.Popups.Window.MouseUp()
                        at ORTS.Popups.WindowManager.HandleUserInput(ElapsedT ime elapsedTime)
                        at ORTS.Viewer3D.HandleUserInput(ElapsedTime elapsedTime)
                        at ORTS.UpdaterProcess.Update()
                        at ORTS.UpdaterProcess.UpdateLoop()
                        at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEventInternal(TraceEvent Cache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
                        at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
                        at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceE ventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
                        at System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
                        at ORTS.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o)
                        at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
                        at System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
                        at ORTS.Viewer3D.ProcessReportError(Exception error)
                        at ORTS.UpdaterProcess.UpdateLoop()
                        at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
                        at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.runTryCode(Objec t userData)
                        at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.RuntimeHelpers.Exe cuteCodeWithGuaranteedCleanup(TryCode code, CleanupCode backoutCode, Object userData)
                        at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(Exec utionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
                        at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
                        at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()
                        The Pop-ups didn't show up in the Marias Pass - Columbia Plywood set-out activity

                        Pop-ups show up in East Metro but after saving they don't show again which is nice. I hate those little messages, I prefer "sandbox", work order and map.

                        Harold
                        Last edited by hminky; 12-21-2011, 20:44.

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                        • longiron
                          1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1453
                          • Just south of NYC

                          #72
                          Originally posted by hminky
                          Got this when I clicked on Work Order in the F1 window along with a lockup:
                          We can reproduce the issue on our systems. There's a bug report filed.

                          Originally posted by hminky
                          The Pop-ups didn't show up in the Marias Pass - Columbia Plywood set-out activity
                          Just tested the activity and pop-ups do work. You get one immediately as you leave the main line with instructions on what to do. Some of the later messages are dependant on other actions.

                          Originally posted by hminky
                          Pop-ups show up in East Metro but after saving they don't show again which is nice. I hate those little messages, I prefer "sandbox", work order and map.
                          Harold
                          Save & Restore has not been implemented for Activities in this release. We're working on getting those "little messages" working in the future :>)
                          Chris
                          "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                          • hminky
                            1000 Post Veteran
                            • May 2009
                            • 1114

                            #73
                            Originally posted by longiron
                            We're working on getting those "little messages" working in the future :>)
                            It would be nice if they were optional, just having the work order and map is great, makes it feel like working a railroad. The "little messages" make it a game and not a simulation.

                            That is what I hate about "scenarios" in Railworks, that "go to destination Q2, go to destination Q3". Sorta like playing an RPG while reading a guide.

                            Harold

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                            • csantucci
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 1999
                              • 856
                              • Torino, Italy.

                              #74
                              I'm enjoying running with high speed trains the french LGV-Med line (using OR).
                              I would like however to show this strange behaviour of the overhead wire above some rail sections (overhead wire being side shifted and not above center of tracks).

                              On MSTS the overheadwire is OK. If the OR team needs specific additional info, pls tell me what I should provide.

                              Carlo
                              Last edited by csantucci; 12-25-2011, 05:39.
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                              • longiron
                                1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                                • Jan 2007
                                • 1453
                                • Just south of NYC

                                #75
                                Originally posted by csantucci
                                I'm enjoying running with high speed trains the french LGV-Med line (using OR).
                                I would like however to show this strange behaviour of the overhead wire above some rail sections (overhead wire being side shifted and not above center of tracks).
                                On MSTS the overheadwire is OK. If the OR team needs specific additional info, pls tell me what I should provide.

                                Carlo
                                What kind of track is used? And where can the team download it?
                                Chris
                                "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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