Official v645 Thread

[csx101]

Compaq Presario,3GB Memory,250GB Hard Drive, Nvidia GEforce 6150 SE Graphics Card,AMD Athlon Dual core processor 4450e,2.30GHz,32 bit system,Windows Vista.The thing is that when i run the routes in trainstore the frame rates are very good,the frame rates are like that only when i run Open Rails.Oh yea i just ran Open Rails again and its saying iam getting 5FPS.

[antuanfs]

Hi,

Tanks for your wonderful work in Open Rails.

Greetings.

[SurvivorSean]

Boy this thread reminds me of a dog peeing on a kid who just spent his buck 25 on a snow cone from his local ice cream truck in the middle of summer. Then the rest of the dogs smelled the scent on the kid and had to mark his territory

I'll be honest I haven't downloaded every version of ORTS and haven't even run MSTS in a month for that matter. But I think what these guys are pumping out is full of potential. This group's priorities is nowhere near where my priorities are, but I support them none the less because they're building on something.

Personally I want these guys not only to be happy with what they're doing for their own goals, but actually feel they're helping the community. I see so much potential and I wish the developers the best of luck and you have my support.

Thanks

Sean

[longiron]

Compaq Presario,3GB Memory,250GB Hard Drive, Nvidia GEforce 6150 SE Graphics Card,AMD Athlon Dual core processor 4450e,2.30GHz,32 bit system,Windows Vista.The thing is that when i run the routes in trainstore the frame rates are very good,the frame rates are like that only when i run Open Rails.Oh yea i just ran Open Rails again and its saying iam getting 5FPS.

Hi, the reason you are getting low frame rates with Open Rails is your video card. The GeForce 6150 uses 256MB of shared (with your System RAM) of video memory. This is not an ideal setup for Open Rails. OR uses the video card for much more of the game's workload than Microsoft Train Simulator. The best way to get higher FPS with Open Rails is to upgrade your video card. My other suggestion is to make sure to turn off Dynamic Shadows as it makes your video card do even more work.

Hope this helps

[OTTODAD]

I can't load Bernina activities, OR dies when i select one of them, like the 452_ti_stm.act.

Does the same here and trying to test it once again could not launch ORTS and had to re-start my computer from cold.

O t t o

[twpol]

- v0.645 needs much more CPU power to run than v0.360. On the same route, with identical consists, starting points etc. i get less than half of the fps now, and the overall process load has gone up to 150 - 300% from the 100 - 110% i used to have under v0.360. Framerates dropped from 16+ in v0.360 to 6 - 10 in v0.645.

Do you have dynamic shadows enabled? They're more expensive by default than in v360, but there are some hidden options for tuning which I'd like to explore with people over the next week or two.

Personally I want these guys not only to be happy with what they're doing for their own goals, but actually feel they're helping the community. I see so much potential and I wish the developers the best of luck and you have my support.

Thanks for your support; releasing new versions of OR sometimes feels like poking your head outside in a war zone.

[GoGoran]

Does the same here and trying to test it once again could not launch ORTS and had to re-start my computer from cold.

I had similar error messages, but when I tried the simple user-interface of ORTS (the one with the kindergarten-look) it suddenly worked alright.

[GoGoran]

Do you have dynamic shadows enabled? They're more expensive by default than in v360, but there are some hidden options for tuning which I'd like to explore with people over the next week or two.

I have all options activated and maxed out, incl. dynamic shadows, like I did in v0.360, too. I run in full screen at 1600*1200 - the same as in v0.360 as well.

What I did note was that the sound process takes up quite a LOT of processing time now - did you make any changes there ?

thanks for your support; releasing new versions of OR sometimes feels like poking your head outside in a war zone.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to appear ungrateful, you guys are doing a terrific job. But issues are issues, and I know you want to fix them, too.

[OTTODAD]

- the cameras are even more difficult to adjust than in v0.360, to the point that they become unusable, esp. cams 2 and 3. They should work exactly like the ones in MSTS with BinPatch 1.8, just as easy and effortless !

Yes, some of their various options are not something that can be remembered easily:



What is needed is a camera function for all outside views, like the MSTS Ctrl-Shift-9 with a 360° fish-eye view range, raise, lower, tilt, zoom in and out, raise and zoom out with an unlimited range.

O t t o

[OTTODAD]

Thanks for your support; releasing new versions of OR sometimes feels like poking your head outside in a war zone.

Support is useful only if it comes from actual users of ORTS-645 supplying feedback and not just words !

O t t o

[kox]

What about the texture details on terrain? Near the bridge, the terrain texture is more detailed in msts screenshot than in orts.
Did you used ansio filtering in msts and not in orts?

BTW browsing in source code is interesting i see the correct MU operations (throttle, and dynamic brake setting messages along the train) are implemented now.

And also good to see the SI units in the code

[OTTODAD]

I had similar error messages, but when I tried the simple user-interface of ORTS (the one with the kindergarten-look) it suddenly worked alright.

Tried running ORTS to switch to the simple menu and it refused to load again.

Double-Clicking on it's shortcut the hour glass appears shortly and then disappears. No sign of it running in the Task Manager.

Tried doing that 4 times and nothing !!!!!!

Shut down Windows and it told me 4 times that ORTS is still running and needs to be closed down first, 4 incidences of it running in RAM, but not showing in the Task Manager.

Re-started it and ORTS loaded. Trying again to run a MSTS route in Explore mode the same errors I have shown above happened and after exiting ORTS it won't run again.

I am getting tired of all this and shall wait until whatever has been fixed.

O t t o

[OTTODAD]

What about the texture details on terrain? Near the bridge, the terrain texture is more detailed in msts screenshot than in orts. Did you used ansio filtering in msts and not in orts?

AA and AF are set in the ATI HD 4870 Catalyst and are used by all graphics in all programs using any.

[twpol]

What I did note was that the sound process takes up quite a LOT of processing time now - did you make any changes there ?

I don't think anything major changed there... the Sound Process should always be quite low usage (under 5% here). What are you seeing? Might be worth checking for updated drivers, in case they're adversely affecting it.

Yes, some of their various options are not something that can be remembered easily:

They're actually much more consistent than anything previously was, although you appear to have got them labelled with the numpad keys for some reason rather than the intended keys - arrows and page up/down.

What is needed is a camera function for all outside views, like the MSTS Ctrl-Shift-9 with a 360° fish-eye view range, raise, lower, tilt, zoom in and out, raise and zoom out with an unlimited range.

If you want to go beyond the designed and authored limits, use camera #8.

What about the texture details on terrain? Near the bridge, the terrain texture is more detailed in msts screenshot than in orts.
Did you used ansio filtering in msts and not in orts?

This is the result of OR not supported microtex as used by MSTS. It will be in a future version.

[Train-a-Mania]

Otto, you need to go to Options => Folders in the upper left menu. There, you will see the "Add" option to add new MSTS Minis.