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  • landnrailroader
    4000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 4171
    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
    • ORTS

    #1

    Path break -- maybe

    As I am creating new track in a route, I stop every mile or so and go back and do a careful visual check to be sure that the joints between track pieces are complete and not offset vertically. Generall if there is a horizontal offset, no lock occurs and a blue pole exists, but if you fail to turn off creating a database entry when, for example, creating a grade, then it is possible that the data base lines will line up but the track object does not.
    Now, see the attached image. This is inside a tunnel at the crest of a grade and there is ABSOLUTELY no visual error seen, no blue pole, no gaps, etc. So I wonder, is there a limitation on the number of joints that can be accounted for in a short space. This is on a former L&N mainline, now abandoned, and for the crest of the grade, as for the dips in it, I shape the vertical curve with 5m pieces and change the gradient by 0.1% between pieces. If space is critical I may use 0.15%. If a working mainline, I use 10m pieces. At this location the variance is from up 1.2% to down 1.1% and there are 20+ joints in 100+ meters. Are there limits to the spacing etc. between joints, because there is nothing here that visually shows an error. The dot, indicating a break occurs regardless of which direction the path runs. And while there appears to be a tiny break to the left, the path generates across it.

    Jerry Sullivan PATH_BREAK.png
  • geepster775
    2500 Post Veteran


    • Sep 2006
    • 2846
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    • General

    #2
    I noted a similar problem with the paths for the Virginian route. There was a supplied path, likely created using the older AE, that makes Open Rails bomb out when attempting to run it. When I created a new path in track viewer, I get a hard break in the path around the Merrimac/Ironto VA area that track viewer cannot get beyond.
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    • eric
      9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



      • Dec 2002
      • 9583
      • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
      • English, SQL
      • General

      #3
      It's possible there's a track overlap that exceeds what the engine can handle. My minimum length is 0.2m for a track piece.

      In TSRE, this is a continuous yellow wire line TDB with no blue pole breaks, correct?
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      • landnrailroader
        4000 Post Veteran



        • Nov 1999
        • 4171
        • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
        • ORTS

        #4
        Yes, no blue poles. After reworking the area twice, it now is complete. I'll have to check the Virginian route because I am still working on it too. I do not know of any other good way to create paths, and since there seems to be issues with the consist editor, I use existing consists whether correct for the route or not, for test purposes. Building an activity in TSRE is okay as long as you have a good path and a good consist to use.

        I think Eric hit something when he mentioned overlaps. I did have one, very small, but when I cleared that up, it is probably what fixed the issue although the overlap did not result in a noticeable change in the yellow lines, nor did it produce a blue pole.

        Jerry Sullivan
        Last edited by landnrailroader; 02-20-2025, 11:02.

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        • landnrailroader
          4000 Post Veteran



          • Nov 1999
          • 4171
          • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
          • ORTS

          #5
          Geepster775

          I took a look in the Virginian route and there is a blue pole in a 3D30minute curve right at the southwest boundary of tile -11189/14169, very obvious. I fixed it. Delete the piece of track east of the problem and re-insert it. Evidently there was a tiny overlap which in this case created the blue pole. Now if you start a route west of the issue, and run it east it will go all the way to the far end of Roanoke. I am still working on that one and I do plan to issue it semi-complete but it is like most of mine, I can either do that and let other more interested and probably more skilled detailers play with it, of go to the grave with several routes sitting on my SSD - just turned 86, health is good, but then who knows? One of the things to fix on this route is to removed all of the ballast transfers under the track so the "painters" won't have to.

          Jerry

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