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  • qballbandit
    6500 Post Veteran

    • Jan 2006
    • 6522
    • Elgin Il., USA.
    • MSOR

    #1

    raising terrain under track questions

    Hello,
    When the need arises to raise terrain under track, is using the following approach the most effective method?:

    "F2 >==> Click on [HeightMap+] >>==> Brush settings: Size=1, Intensity=1(this is fine setting) In View Menu Check 'Terrain Grid' (it's easy whem you can see the vertex's to position the cursor.

    The 'Z' key toggles terrain vertex up/down. VERY handy sliding cursor around with mouse and left finger on 'Z' key. Tapping left mouse does it. Sliding ... painting, with the cursor is really a nice feature, especially with larger brush (cursor) sizes. A real joy working with terrain compared to MSTS."
    (tip from Vince)

    I never can get the same result from moment to moment. Things raise up, things drop. The area of the change differs continually.

    Is the above for broader changes like fields, hills, mountains, etc.? There is a ton of track/terrain on many routes I'd like to fix, but need some experienced users to provide some guidance.

    Thanks very much,
    Neil

    Chicago Railroading Fan
  • peterman
    Senior Member

    • May 2010
    • 151
    • Great White North
    • ORTS

    #2
    Hi Neil,

    I use the method that you describe. My issue with it is, that after I have made my alterations and then saved it, the next time that I make terrain alterations elsewhere on the route... the terrain height somewhere else lowers and I get the gap beneath the rails. In other words, the terrain height is not stable and is forever changing. Mind you, I had the same issues with MSTS RE. One thing that you can try, after you go to your F2 screen and set your size and density but before selecting the height +/- button, click on the piece of track where you want to raise the terrain, to hi-light it. Then click on the height+/- button and then right-click on the hi-lighted track and you have the option to raise the terrain to the track. It should be the first or top selection. Good luck!

    Peter

    PS... I'll make mention that you should have the line "writeTDB = True" disabled in your settings text.

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    • eric
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      • Dec 2002
      • 9583
      • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
      • English, SQL
      • General

      #3
      And this is why I place 3D berms under my track. It helps hide some of those imperfections..

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      • qballbandit
        6500 Post Veteran

        • Jan 2006
        • 6522
        • Elgin Il., USA.
        • MSOR

        #4
        Hello Peter,
        I have the config line already set from way back. I will give your suggestions a hard try today and report back.
        Many thanks!



        Edit: I tried the selecting track, then set terrain to object. This is a viable method if no roads or potentially adjacent track is in the vicinity.
        Using "Z" and brush settings, etc - I am just not getting how to do this, so moving on to something else.
        Last edited by qballbandit; 05-19-2023, 11:27.
        Neil

        Chicago Railroading Fan

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        • eric
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          • Dec 2002
          • 9583
          • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
          • English, SQL
          • General

          #5
          Setting terrain to object gives me very odd results from time to time. Sometimes it's very precise, sometimes it just defaults to whatever size and intensity it feels like you.
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          • peterman
            Senior Member

            • May 2010
            • 151
            • Great White North
            • ORTS

            #6
            Originally posted by qballbandit
            Hello Peter,
            I have the config line already set from way back. I will give your suggestions a hard try today and report back.
            Many thanks!





            Edit: I tried the selecting track, then set terrain to object. This is a viable method if no roads or potentially adjacent track is in the vicinity.
            Using "Z" and brush settings, etc - I am just not getting how to do this, so moving on to something else.
            Hi Neil,

            I feel for you as I also get frustrated at times. I have just resorted to... engage the terrain grid, set the size to 1, density to 1 or 2, hit the height+/- button, baby finger near the Z key and then just follow the track and adjust where needed. Patience is a Virtue.

            Peter

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