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  • oldno42
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 25

    #1

    want to adjust/lift terrain to meet track

    I want to lift the terrain to match the track as I am making a causeway crossing, mountain inclines and etc. How does one set this? It was so easy in MSTS Route Tool. Also, turning items as one could in MSTS. All I can do with items is rotate 90 deg intervals.
  • ebnertra000
    1500 Post Veteran


    • Jun 2013
    • 1778
    • Minnesota

    #2
    Press F to match terrain to any object.

    The numpad arrow keys can move and rotate objects (be sure to press R to enter rotate mode, andthe E when you're done), as can the Transform menu

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    • oldno42
      Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 25

      #3
      ok
      great
      thanks

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      • joe_star
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 394

        #4
        Originally posted by oldno42
        ok
        great
        thanks
        The default embankments and cuttings of MSTS RE are still better & more flexible imo than TSRE. However the other terrain tools TSRE features more than out do what MSTS RE comes with

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        • kapitaen
          Senior Member

          • May 2010
          • 331
          • Germany
          • German + a little bit English
          • MSOR

          #5
          The default embankments and cuttings of MSTS RE are still better & more flexible imo than TSRE.
          This statement is not correct!



          http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...80#entry217080

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          • joe_star
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 394

            #6
            Oh you misunderstand. I fully agree the terrain tools in TSRE far outbenefit that which comes in MSTS RE. I was being specific to the embankment & cutting tools, which are decent, but not as flexible as MSTS RE, resulting in requiring to make manual adjustments. I do understand if your being particular, even the MSTS RE embankments & cuttings need fine tuning, but most of the time I am quite satisfied with what they output, as opposed to TSRE where they dont really work properly.

            http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...g-misbehaving/

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            • Vince
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              • Nov 1999
              • 6961
              • Mohave

              #7
              Never had a complaint Joe.
              The TSRE embank and cutting work ok for me.
              It all depends on getting familiar with the settings. That took a while but a LOT less time than it took me to get the MSTS editor to play nice.
              I DO agree the width with only 3 choices could be better, possibly adding 2 more positions on the slider might be a possible fix.

              All in all TSRE is miles ahead with terrain tools. The embankment tools are okay when you find a setting that works for you.

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              • joe_star
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 394

                #8
                Originally posted by Vince
                Never had a complaint Joe.
                The TSRE embank and cutting work ok for me.
                It all depends on getting familiar with the settings. That took a while but a LOT less time than it took me to get the MSTS editor to play nice.
                I DO agree the width with only 3 choices could be better, possibly adding 2 more positions on the slider might be a possible fix.

                All in all TSRE is miles ahead with terrain tools. The embankment tools are okay when you find a setting that works for you.

                regards,
                I have spent plenty of time with the settings Vince. The results are less consistent than RE for sure, and at times leading to strange outcomes! RE throws a fit with very extreme settings (too narrow width, to high/low angle) while TSRE has a very narrow range of settings to use that changes per route/per tile/per object orientation.

                I still use it though, when it plays nice, and alternately either lay NR embankment pieces or manually build them with the paint on terrain tools. Its 1 of the features I'd wish gets polished, in an otherwise vast improvement over MSTS RE.

                Speaking of which, is Goku still working on the editor? He seems to have taken a break lately eh?

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                • GokuMK
                  Senior Member

                  • Oct 2015
                  • 729
                  • Poland

                  #9
                  Originally posted by joe_star
                  Oh you misunderstand. I fully agree the terrain tools in TSRE far outbenefit that which comes in MSTS RE. I was being specific to the embankment & cutting tools, which are decent, but not as flexible as MSTS RE, resulting in requiring to make manual adjustments. I do understand if your being particular, even the MSTS RE embankments & cuttings need fine tuning, but most of the time I am quite satisfied with what they output, as opposed to TSRE where they dont really work properly.

                  http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...g-misbehaving/
                  For me TSRE embankment & cutting tools works the same way as in MSRE. Don't know what is your problem and how can I reproduce the weird stuff from your video. So, can't help.
                  The range of values is better in TSRE than in MSRE, I think ..

                  On the video I see that you mostly play with "size" attribute. In MSTS it's fixed to 2 and editing it is useless in most cases.
                  Last edited by GokuMK; 01-03-2019, 07:56.

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                  • joe_star
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 394

                    #10
                    Originally posted by GokuMK
                    For me TSRE embankment & cutting tools works the same way as in MSRE. Don't know what is your problem and how can I reproduce the weird stuff from your video. So, can't help.
                    The range of values is better in TSRE than in MSRE, I think ..

                    On the video I see that you mostly play with "size" attribute. In MSTS it's fixed to 2 and editing it is useless in most cases.
                    I am more than glad to share the tiles with yourself or anyone else to try, perhaps its my laptop itself??? I don't have any other machine that I can use at the moment.

                    In MSTS the "size" corresponds to "width" & is adjustable all the way from 5 to 50 & more.

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                    • GokuMK
                      Senior Member

                      • Oct 2015
                      • 729
                      • Poland

                      #11
                      In MSTS the "size" corresponds to "width" & is adjustable all the way from 5 to 50 & more.
                      Ok. Indeed. But you must notice the difference. In MSTS the value is defined by meters. But MSTS terrain is made of 8 m grid, so only small amount of values is possible. In TSRE this value is defined not by meters, but by terrain vertices. 1 = 8m, 2 = 16m etc.

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