Pocohontas Route question please?

[slipperman]

P.S. as a curiosity, I installed ScaleRoads to C:\1MSTS Does this automatically go Into the ORTSContent Folder please?

NO, mate!!
They are completely different installations!

Ged

[pcohen]

Hi Ged.

OK, so how do I install Scaleroad Into ORTSContent please?

Thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
The same way as you did for MSTS!
Point the installer to your installation's root folder, which, I believe, is C:\ORTSContent.

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Thanks Ged.

[baldwin]

Hi Paul

The sound process failure is exactly the same as you have posted for other routes. I have posted the problem over at Elvas Tower and am waiting on an answer. I am not an expert in this but it does seem odd that three different routes can produce precisely the same fault with different consists.

Mervyn

[slipperman]

Hi Mervyn,
Regarding Paul's "Sound Process has hung"
I haven't seen the source code for OR v1.6 but in a Testing version from Oct 2024, the lines reported in Paul's log concern track sounds.

Paul has several routes in the same installation. Each route has it's own ttype.dat, BUT that file uses .sms files from the installation's main SOUND folder so all UK routes in the installation could be using the SAME .sms files. I have checked my Dorset and Thames Trent route installations and the SOUND folder on each only has 3 faulty files (forest_c.sms, forest_w.sms and traf_m_o.sms) which are not track sounds, but I wonder if Paul copied the SOUND folder from another installation which does have faulty track .sms files.

As well as track sounds, routes also use .sms files from the main SOUND folder, so it could be one of them.

paul : Can you please run sms_Checker on your C:\ORTSContent\SOUND folder, save the report then attach it to a post here. When you press the "Save Report" button, it will be saved in the folder where you installed sms_Checker and is identified by date and time. If you don't have sms_Checker, it is file ID 87505 in this site's library.

This may not be the cause of Paul's problem but I think it's worth eliminating

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Hi Ged & Mervyn, thank you both for your replies.

I think I have really messed this up.

Just to Confirm please. The following files are some or all of the Items required to run MSTS.

XTracks, newroads_files, default-track-atrack-01apr25, tsection60, scalerail, scaleroad & UKST_pt3_v1-0.exe SOUND.

Are the same Items also Required to Run the ORTSContent setup.

Many thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
You must read the documentation supplied with each route to find out which tracks and roads are required.
You CAN use tsection.dat build #60 for almost any route. The exceptions are if the documentation specifies that a certain tsection.dat file is to be used - in such a case, you MUST NOT put that route in the same installation as any others.

File UKST_pt3_v1-0.exe are rolling stock sounds - whatever stock you add, its documentation will (usually) tell you what sounds (and cabview, if it's a loco) are required, if they are not included in the download.

Have you been able to run sms_Checker yet?

Cheers,
Ged

[baldwin]

Hi Paul
default-track-atrack-01apr25 is a direct replacement for Xtracks with slimmer rails so you do not need both, just one or the other. Each will overwrite the other if both are installed to the same Global folder.
Mervyn

[pcohen]

Hi Ged & Mervyn, thanks again for the help.

Beginning to think that I don't know what I'm doing anymore.

I am still trying to run MONON 2.17 Route but It's still crashing.

Thought I would try your sms_Checker as you suggested.

Report Options: All (In GREEN) Run Completed - 0 Files processed.

Pressing ALT+T to toggle between Full + Error-only displays does nothing/doesn't do anything.

(IN BLUE) No missing file detected.
No Invalid .wav entries detected.

Probably doing It wrong.

Hope you have some Ideas please?

Thanks

Paul.

Log File Attached:- OpenRailsLog.zip

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
Just run sms_Checker as it is - DO NOT try any other options!
However, the folder you selected has NO .sms files in it.
If you selected the main SOUND folder in your ORTSContent folder then that is, almost certainly, why you're having these problems!

If you REALLY have nothing in the ORTSContent/SOUND folder, I suggest that you download file ID 2001 (default_folders.zip), unpack it and copy the contents of its SOUND folder into your installation's SOUND folder.

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Hi Ged.

Already have file ID 2001 but downloaded It again and Installed It.

This Is now what I have In my ORTSContent Folder:-

global, MSTS_Content, routes, sound, TechDocs. trains & yourRoute.

Hope this Is Right or am I starting all over again?

Thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
My first very important question is : BEFORE you added file ID 2001, was your ORTSContent/SOUND folder empty?

If so, I think it will still be empty because you've not copied the contents of the SOUND folder from default_folders/MSTS_Content into your ORTSContents/SOUND folder.
You appear to have copied MSTS_Content into your ORTSContent folder - I did not ask you to do that. Please do the above now.

When you've copied the SOUND files, delete the MSTS_Content folder from ORTSContent because it's not required. It won't hurt Open Rails, but will, undoubtedly, confuse you !!

Where you've got TechDocs and YourRoute from I don't know but are not required for Open Rails.

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Hello again Ged. thanks again.

I have now copied The Sound from MSTSContent Into the Sound Folder and now have the folowing Folders In the
ORTSContent Folder:- global, MSTS_Content, routes, sound & trains (5 Items in Total).

Is this now Correct please?

Many thanks

Paul.

P.S. MSTS_Content Now removed 4 Items remaining.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
That is now correct
You haven't answered my question regarding the original state of your main SOUND folder - I think it was empty, which was confirmed by sms_Checker BUT ONLY if you specified that folder to be checked.
Your main SOUND folder should now contain at least 485 files.

Cheers,
Ged