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  • southern455
    Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 43
    • Petaluma, CA, USA.

    #1

    Madera Sugar Pine Co. Railroad

    Just a quick thank you to Brian Smolke for his excellent Madera Sugar Pine Lumber Company narrow gauge route and rolling stock - newly available in the file library. For those interested about this company and its operations and railroad, there is an excellent (but out of print) 1968 book "Thunder in the Mountains" by Hank Johnson. It's currently available on Ebay.

    Thanks again Brian, I've got a big smile on my face.

    Bob Groh
  • R. Steele
    3500 Post Veteran

    • Feb 2013
    • 3928
    • known universe
    • ORTS

    #2
    It must be an excellent route if it is anything like Brian's other work:

    MSTS North Coast Railroad Route v3.2 Update
    Requires North Coast Railroad Route 3.1,
    X-Tracks 3.20 and NewRoads 4.0.
    This update extends the Northwestern Pacific
    Railroad route south from Willits to Ukiah.
    There are also a handful of scenery updates
    through the rest of the route.
    By Brian Smolke, Dadbill and Joe Smith
    Cheers, Gerry
    "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
    It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
    Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
    Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

    https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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    • lineman
      Senior Member

      • Mar 2007
      • 539
      • Phoenix AZ
      • General

      #3
      Does anyone have problems with missing track data where the engine and cars disappear then jump back on track where the track data returns. When viewed in track viewer there are many spots where the track is missing , usually a curved area, and this is where the train disappears and then reappears after the break in the track data.

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      • R. Steele
        3500 Post Veteran

        • Feb 2013
        • 3928
        • known universe
        • ORTS

        #4
        Originally posted by lineman
        Does anyone have problems with missing track data where the engine and cars disappear then jump back on track where the track data returns. When viewed in track viewer there are many spots where the track is missing , usually a curved area, and this is where the train disappears and then reappears after the break in the track data.
        Running in OR I'm assuming? Check to see if you have super elevation checked, the phrase "usually a curved area" is what tipped me off.
        Same thing happens on curves in the Sherman Hill route when super elevation is checked.
        Options/Experimental Tab
        Cheers, Gerry
        "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
        It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
        Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
        Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

        https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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        • uli2
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          • Jan 2008
          • 503
          • Berlin/Germany
          • MSOR

          #5
          Originally posted by lineman
          Does anyone have problems with missing track data where the engine and cars disappear then jump back on track where the track data returns. When viewed in track viewer there are many spots where the track is missing , usually a curved area, and this is where the train disappears and then reappears after the break in the track data.
          Do you have build 58 of the standardized tsection.dat in your GLOBAL folder? It is required for the route to work correctly. I just finished the activity that comes with the route and did not observe any anomalities.

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          • niknak
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Nov 1999
            • 1254
            • UK.
            • MSOR

            #6
            Originally posted by uli2
            Do you have build 58 of the standardized tsection.dat in your GLOBAL folder? It is required for the route to work correctly. I just finished the activity that comes with the route and did not observe any anomalities.
            I had the same problem at first. I checked my x-tracks and Tsection versions and installed the latest - all is now good.
            Regards,

            Nick

            ( ' boffin0_reprised ' on TikTok )




            Cyberpower Desktop with AMD Ryzen 5 CPU /. 16GB RAM /. ATI AMD Radeon RX6700 12GB graphics /. Windows 11 Home 64bit /. RailDriver /. Partridge in a pear tree....​

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            • bwbrgb
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2004
              • 441
              • Ontario, Canada
              • General

              #7
              Make sure you add the extra track pieces that are supplied inside a zip - MSRTracks1.zip- read the text .

              Could be your track problem !

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              • lineman
                Senior Member

                • Mar 2007
                • 539
                • Phoenix AZ
                • General

                #8
                The only problem as listed might be the superelevation. I'll check, thank you all! Can you say operator error? I have two installs, one on the 'c' drive and one on the 'e' drive unfortunately I installed the new tsection file in the 'c' files and was running OR from the 'E' drive. Thank you for all your help!!!
                Last edited by lineman; 06-27-2023, 11:23.

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                • lineman
                  Senior Member

                  • Mar 2007
                  • 539
                  • Phoenix AZ
                  • General

                  #9
                  Thank you Brian, great route!

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                  • niknak
                    1000 Post Veteran


                    • Nov 1999
                    • 1254
                    • UK.
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lineman
                    Thank you Brian, great route!
                    Seconded!
                    Regards,

                    Nick

                    ( ' boffin0_reprised ' on TikTok )




                    Cyberpower Desktop with AMD Ryzen 5 CPU /. 16GB RAM /. ATI AMD Radeon RX6700 12GB graphics /. Windows 11 Home 64bit /. RailDriver /. Partridge in a pear tree....​

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                    • tlowe
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 30
                      • Oregon, US
                      • General

                      #11
                      Thanks Ya'll. I installed it as per instructions and the route worked perfectly right out of the box. Thanks Brian.

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                      • CivilEng
                        Member

                        • Oct 2002
                        • 31
                        • .
                        • General

                        #12
                        Thanks everyone for the kind words. I'm glad to hear people are enjoying the route. It was fun recreating this little piece of history of the Sierra Nevada Mountains.
                        Attached Files

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                        • R. Steele
                          3500 Post Veteran

                          • Feb 2013
                          • 3928
                          • known universe
                          • ORTS

                          #13
                          Brian >>> HatTip.jpginstalling and running the route was on my list...and I got it done today. Marvelous. What fun. Also started me looking around today for history of the area and the logging...very interesting.

                          ...and of course I had to immediately start fussin' with things so I installed some views on the shay locomotives, because I wanted to ride around in autopilot and enjoy the sights.

                          Here they are if anyone wants to plug them into their locomotives. It should be obvious where they go...copy and paste from the code below. [edit] Change Shape file name to match correct shay

                          For MSTS eng file

                          Code:
                              IntakePoint ( -3.1 1.0 FuelCoal )
                              Inside (
                                   Comment ( Standing Front of Engine )
                                  PassengerCabinFile ( MSP2_Shay.s )
                                  PassengerCabinHeadPos ( 0.77 1.9 4.37 )
                                  RotationLimit ( 180 180 180 )
                                  StartDirection ( 0 0 0 )
                                  Sound ( "shaydeng.sms" )
                              )
                                  Sound ( "shaydeng.sms" )
                          
                               BrakeEquipmentType( "Triple_valve, Auxilary_reservoir, Handbrake, Emergency_brake_reservoir" )
                          For eng file in OpenRails folder
                          Code:
                              ORTSFreightAnims (
                                  MSTSFreightAnimEnabled ( 1 )
                                  FreightAnimStatic (
                                      Shape ( FA_MSP2_ShayTank.S )
                                      Offset ( 0, 0, 0 )
                                  )
                              )
                              ORTSAlternatePassengerViewPoints (
                                      Comment ( Wood Tender Conductor View )
                                  ORTSAlternatePassengerViewPoint (
                                  PassengerCabinHeadPos ( -0.85 3.00 -3.97 )
                                  RotationLimit ( 180 180 90 )
                                  StartDirection ( 0 0 0 )
                                  Sound ( "shaydeng.sms" )
                                  )
                                  Comment ( Sitting on Woodpile )
                                  ORTSAlternatePassengerViewPoint (
                                  PassengerCabinHeadPos ( 0.05 2.53 -2.59 )
                                  RotationLimit ( 180 180 90 )
                                  StartDirection ( 0 0 0 )
                                  Sound ( "shaydeng.sms" )
                                  )
                              )
                          )
                          Engine (
                              Sound ( "shaydcabOR.sms" )
                          Please feel free to adjust positions to suit yourself...if you are not familiar with the MSTS Positioning Tool...it's a nifty add-on to the Shape File Viewer that allows you to quickly and easily determine the X Y Z numbers for any position.

                          In the Library >>> postool.zip
                          Last edited by R. Steele; 07-02-2023, 16:56.
                          Cheers, Gerry
                          "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                          It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                          Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                          Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

                          https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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                          • niknak
                            1000 Post Veteran


                            • Nov 1999
                            • 1254
                            • UK.
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            Many thanks Gerry
                            Regards,

                            Nick

                            ( ' boffin0_reprised ' on TikTok )




                            Cyberpower Desktop with AMD Ryzen 5 CPU /. 16GB RAM /. ATI AMD Radeon RX6700 12GB graphics /. Windows 11 Home 64bit /. RailDriver /. Partridge in a pear tree....​

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                            • CivilEng
                              Member

                              • Oct 2002
                              • 31
                              • .
                              • General

                              #15
                              Thanks for sharing the passenger views! They reminded me of a small detail on MSP operations. When MSP trains dropped down to Sugar Pine, the brakeman would stand on the front of the Shay (which would be running in reverse) so he could watch the rest of the train for cars derailing and overturning on the sharp curves. Apparently overturning cars were common enough of an occurence.

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