Madera Sugar Pine Co. Railroad

**R. Steele** · 06-26-2023, 19:01

It must be an excellent route if it is anything like Brian's other work:

MSTS North Coast Railroad Route v3.2 Update
Requires North Coast Railroad Route 3.1,
X-Tracks 3.20 and NewRoads 4.0.
This update extends the Northwestern Pacific
Railroad route south from Willits to Ukiah.
There are also a handful of scenery updates
through the rest of the route.
By Brian Smolke, Dadbill and Joe Smith

**lineman** · 06-26-2023, 20:04

Does anyone have problems with missing track data where the engine and cars disappear then jump back on track where the track data returns. When viewed in track viewer there are many spots where the track is missing , usually a curved area, and this is where the train disappears and then reappears after the break in the track data.

**R. Steele** · 06-26-2023, 21:00

Originally posted by lineman

Does anyone have problems with missing track data where the engine and cars disappear then jump back on track where the track data returns. When viewed in track viewer there are many spots where the track is missing , usually a curved area, and this is where the train disappears and then reappears after the break in the track data.

Running in OR I'm assuming? Check to see if you have super elevation checked, the phrase "usually a curved area" is what tipped me off.
Same thing happens on curves in the Sherman Hill route when super elevation is checked.
Options/Experimental Tab

**uli2** · 06-27-2023, 04:38

Originally posted by lineman

Does anyone have problems with missing track data where the engine and cars disappear then jump back on track where the track data returns. When viewed in track viewer there are many spots where the track is missing , usually a curved area, and this is where the train disappears and then reappears after the break in the track data.

Do you have build 58 of the standardized tsection.dat in your GLOBAL folder? It is required for the route to work correctly. I just finished the activity that comes with the route and did not observe any anomalities.

**niknak** · 06-27-2023, 04:43

Originally posted by uli2

Do you have build 58 of the standardized tsection.dat in your GLOBAL folder? It is required for the route to work correctly. I just finished the activity that comes with the route and did not observe any anomalities.

I had the same problem at first. I checked my x-tracks and Tsection versions and installed the latest - all is now good.

**bwbrgb** · 06-27-2023, 07:23

Make sure you add the extra track pieces that are supplied inside a zip - MSRTracks1.zip- read the text .

Could be your track problem !

**lineman** · 06-27-2023, 11:13

The only problem as listed might be the superelevation. I'll check, thank you all! Can you say operator error? I have two installs, one on the 'c' drive and one on the 'e' drive unfortunately I installed the new tsection file in the 'c' files and was running OR from the 'E' drive. Thank you for all your help!!!

**lineman** · 06-27-2023, 11:27

Thank you Brian, great route!

**niknak** · 06-27-2023, 12:24

Originally posted by lineman

Thank you Brian, great route!

Seconded!

**tlowe** · 06-28-2023, 08:48

Thanks Ya'll. I installed it as per instructions and the route worked perfectly right out of the box. Thanks Brian.

**CivilEng** · 06-29-2023, 23:30

Thanks everyone for the kind words. I'm glad to hear people are enjoying the route. It was fun recreating this little piece of history of the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

Attached Files

MSP Horseshoe2.jpg (168.5 KB, 44 views)

**R. Steele** · 07-01-2023, 18:14

Brian >>> HatTip.jpginstalling and running the route was on my list...and I got it done today. Marvelous. What fun. Also started me looking around today for history of the area and the logging...very interesting.

...and of course I had to immediately start fussin' with things so I installed some views on the shay locomotives, because I wanted to ride around in autopilot and enjoy the sights.

Here they are if anyone wants to plug them into their locomotives. It should be obvious where they go...copy and paste from the code below. [edit] Change Shape file name to match correct shay

For MSTS eng file

Code:

    IntakePoint ( -3.1 1.0 FuelCoal )
    Inside (
         Comment ( Standing Front of Engine )
        PassengerCabinFile ( MSP2_Shay.s )
        PassengerCabinHeadPos ( 0.77 1.9 4.37 )
        RotationLimit ( 180 180 180 )
        StartDirection ( 0 0 0 )
        Sound ( "shaydeng.sms" )
    )
        Sound ( "shaydeng.sms" )

     BrakeEquipmentType( "Triple_valve, Auxilary_reservoir, Handbrake, Emergency_brake_reservoir" )

For eng file in OpenRails folder

Code:

    ORTSFreightAnims (
        MSTSFreightAnimEnabled ( 1 )
        FreightAnimStatic (
            Shape ( FA_MSP2_ShayTank.S )
            Offset ( 0, 0, 0 )
        )
    )
    ORTSAlternatePassengerViewPoints (
            Comment ( Wood Tender Conductor View )
        ORTSAlternatePassengerViewPoint (
        PassengerCabinHeadPos ( -0.85 3.00 -3.97 )
        RotationLimit ( 180 180 90 )
        StartDirection ( 0 0 0 )
        Sound ( "shaydeng.sms" )
        )
        Comment ( Sitting on Woodpile )
        ORTSAlternatePassengerViewPoint (
        PassengerCabinHeadPos ( 0.05 2.53 -2.59 )
        RotationLimit ( 180 180 90 )
        StartDirection ( 0 0 0 )
        Sound ( "shaydeng.sms" )
        )
    )
)
Engine (
    Sound ( "shaydcabOR.sms" )

Please feel free to adjust positions to suit yourself...if you are not familiar with the MSTS Positioning Tool...it's a nifty add-on to the Shape File Viewer that allows you to quickly and easily determine the X Y Z numbers for any position.

In the Library >>> postool.zip

**niknak** · 07-02-2023, 03:10

Many thanks Gerry

**CivilEng** · 07-02-2023, 15:56

Thanks for sharing the passenger views! They reminded me of a small detail on MSP operations. When MSP trains dropped down to Sugar Pine, the brakeman would stand on the front of the Shay (which would be running in reverse) so he could watch the rest of the train for cars derailing and overturning on the sharp curves. Apparently overturning cars were common enough of an occurence.