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  • Fish4890
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    #1

    How to Rebuild the TDB for a Newly Merged route

    i Merged Cima Route with the SoCal Route and idk how to Rebuild the TDB to get everything Working from WC to N. Las Vegas and beyond ...
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  • eric
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    #2
    How did you merge them??

    TSRE doesn't have a rebuild function, and neither does RouteRiter.

    You can *try* to open it up in the MSTS Route Editor and select Rebuild Track Database from the opening menu... but I have no idea how successful that will be with a route that large. It's missing a bunch of SD files, and it's missing a bunch of REF entries, plus the SigCfg doesn't work with MSTS.

    But you can try.

    The other alternative... Hope that the TDB for the SoCal survived the merge, and then I think you'll need to click on each and every piece of track from the Cima Route to add it to the TDB.

    Yeah, it's a mess, unless someone else has a better idea for the merge. I don't do them anymore for this reason.
    Last edited by eric; 06-11-2023, 19:07.
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    • Fish4890
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      #3
      Oh Eric Um.. Can you PM me i dont think i have MSTS RE
      and i Used Route Riter 7.8.10
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      • eric
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        #4
        Nobody ever said route building or mods was easy.

        Which TDB survived? Pull the route up in TrackViewer and share a screenshot.

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        • Fish4890
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          #5
          it well it did load but image.jpg what i found out that Openrails Trackviewer found Broken Paths but will fix em up with RR iirc
          Last edited by Fish4890; 06-12-2023, 07:28.
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          • eric
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            #6
            Have you tried TrackViewer to fix the broken paths? Most times it works provided the track layout didn't change too much.

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            • Fish4890
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              #7
              well MSTS RE is showing me Shape files that are not in the Merged Calafornia Rte...

              and Paths are Fixed Eric...

              ```
              femalehiker.s
              Footbridge2.s
              OE_FootBridge.s
              JP1FootBridge1.s
              JP1_FootBridge_Green.s
              curvebridge.s
              JP1_RoadBridge_HiFence_r.s
              US2SmlBridge_r.s
              OE_Bridge01_r.s
              OE_Bridge02_r.s
              OE_Bridge04_r.s
              OE_Bridge10_r.s
              JP1BridgeBlue2_r.s
              JP1_RoadBridge_Flat1_r.s
              JP1LongBlueBridge_r.s
              JP2bluebrg_r.s
              US2LaneBridg1_r.s
              US2LaneBridg2_r.s
              oldfootings1.s
              us2flyover.s
              OEWeisbergBridge_r.s
              JP2roadbrg_r.s
              JP2Bridge7.s
              JP1A1t10mstrtElev.s
              JP1A1t50mStrtElev.s
              JP1OverPass.s
              LakeBridge.s
              LakeBridgeNoSignal.s
              US2MedBridge.s
              US2MedBridge02.s
              JP1_RoadBridge_HiFence.s
              RisingTrack.s
              US2Trestle1.s
              US2Trestle2.s
              RailBridge.s
              RailBridgeX1.s
              Railbridgex1noleg.s
              RdBridge4track.s```

              is whats Missing So Far
              Last edited by Fish4890; 06-12-2023, 09:25. Reason: forgot to Put somthing in
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              • Fish4890
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                #8
                All Shapes are in and Texture ACE Files are Copyed Over some Stock MSTS Routes and it Needs Xtracks and New RDs or it will Refuze to Launch and Rebuild my TDB


                MSTS Is Erroring out with


                FAILED TO OPEN

                GLOBAL\SHAPES\A1t0_54mStrt.s
                ROUTES\CIMA\TERREX\-02498bf8_7_14.ace
                GLOBAL\SHAPES\A1t2000r0_5d.s

                Where to find these at Eric...
                Last edited by Fish4890; 06-12-2023, 11:23.
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                • eric
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                  #9
                  Those track shapes are both part of the XTracks standard edition (xtracksf.zip) in the library.

                  As for the terrtex file... copy an existing file and rename it to that texture if you can't find the one that's missing
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                  • Fish4890
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                    #10
                    Global is not an issue its still the


                    ROUTES\CIMA\TERRTEX\-02498bd0_15-14.ace
                    ROUTES\CIMA\TERRTEX\-02498bf8_6_14.ace *** Current ***
                    ROUTES\CIMA\TERRTEX\-02498bdc_0_14.ace *** CURRENT ***
                    ROUTES\CIMA\TERRTEX\-02498bf8_7_14.ace *** CURRENT***

                    I do not know

                    "copy an existing file and rename it to that texture if you can't find the one that's missing
                    ."

                    ** POSSIBLEY GOING TO USE*** (terrtex-1.zip)


                    and i renamed files to match the Failed to Open files and still Errors out

                    and still happends

                    i Tried MSTS Keeps Erroring what i think it Cant Parse ORTS Only FIles
                    Last edited by Fish4890; 06-12-2023, 14:51.
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                    • eric
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                      #11
                      Well... the route *is* designated OR only.

                      If you can view the Barstow to Las Vegas portion in Trackviewer, and if you can load up the route in ORTS, there's really nothing to be gained by doing a TDB rebuild in the MSTS-RE.

                      Fix what's missing manually in TSRE, and count your blessings that it's maybe a mile or so where the overlaps are vs. doing 600 miles of track.
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                      • Fish4890
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                        #12
                        but im Missing Back Half of Barstow to Yermo to Las Vegas
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                        Last edited by Fish4890; 06-12-2023, 15:13.
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                        • eric
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                          #13
                          You shared a screenshot of what was supposed to be your merged TDB. Does that not have Barstow-Yermo-Vegas?
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                          • Fish4890
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                            #14
                            it does only thing is How am i going to Bring the Floating stuff Down to the Ground to Connect it..
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                            • Rance28
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                              #15
                              From what I can tell, it seems that you didn't lower the height of the Cima route has it is able 50 units higher than Cajon. You need to figure out how to get the Tsutil adjust height function to work (I couldn't get it to work for me). Then in TSRE, remove all of the tracks, roads, and interactives in Cima that overlaps with Cajon Pass (such as at -12798, 14043). As it seems that you have track sections in the trackdata base, I just suggest removing these pieces out of the Cima trackdata base before you merge, hence why you should remove all tracks, roads, and interactives that are in world tiles that overlap with Cajon and that should fix it. Then I would suggest deleting said overlapping world file (such as -12798, 14043) and tile file (such as -025c30d0) from the Cima World and Tile folders. And then you should be able to merge with minimal issues. To which, after you merge, you just need to manually connect them. This is roughly what I do, but its not perfect.

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