For the love of Alcos (RS-3)

[SD40-2]

Looking good Scott, but going to say that the speedo gauges would likely not be made by Pulse, but by Barco or similar. Pulse is a bit too new for a new 1950s Locomotive.

Something like this. Pic from an ebay listing.

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For air brake gauges, look up Salem or Graham-White Gauges.

[SD40-2]

Sorry, double-post, but it's also possible it could be a GE-Branded Speedo, such as this one. And thinking about it, for an embeded speedometer, it's more likely to be a GE unit than a Barco unit.

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From: https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/in-t...motive-engine/

[pwillard]

Attempts were made... but I do need the practice... so at least I attempt it...

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[scottb613]

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the info.

Ugh - I liked the Pulse version - I had seen it on some Alco - but - I am modeling - or attempting to model a transition era Alco - so I'll change it. The one in Pete's HD image looks like that GE - but that cab was far from new. I'll give the GE a shot when I get back to gauges. I have yet to figure out how needles work on gauges.

Reworked the scale and size of the central console. Updated image - above.

Nice work Pete!


Regards,
Scott

[rockislandfan]

I forgot that I had this. A real Alco guage or I should say a piece of one with needles. I have had this for about 40 years.
Alco Guage.jpg
Alco Needles.jpg
The red needle is for the independent Brake. The white one is for the train line.

Ron

[rockislandfan]

I don't have any other gauges. This is the only piece of a real Alco that I have.

Ron

[mrmosky]

Nice Dual gauge Ron. That view could be used as-is for a texture.

Scott: Gauge needles are pretty easy to animate. Just have your needle object with the centre positioned at the centre of rotation, then placed at the start position (zero).

Key press "I" to record the first frame as a rotation, then move onto the next frame. Rotate the needle Ry (in my case) until it lines up with the first gauge scale number (say 10psi), and then key "I" to record. Move on to the next frame and repeat, 20, 30 40 and so on.

You strictly don't need to have so many frames animated, 3 will usually do it, but It's so quick to do that why not have all the readings calibrated.

[Whatever2006]

Hah - I'm not a "diesel guy" - but for a diesel - she seems to be coming along pretty nicely.

As a EMD and GE person (mostly), she is looking great!

[scottb613]

I don't have any other gauges. This is the only piece of a real Alco that I have.

Ron

Hi Ron,

THANK YOU SO MUCH - what a great gauge - and great picture - yeah - I think I could just edit that image and incorporate it into the cab - just have to give it a similar effect so it will look like it belongs with the others. What a cool logo - I never really noticed it before.

I have two air gauges over the brake stand - would they both use the same face? Previous to this - I've never spent much time with 2D Cabs to take notice - usually driving from the HUD.

Nice Dual gauge Ron. That view could be used as-is for a texture.

Scott: Gauge needles are pretty easy to animate. Just have your needle object with the centre positioned at the centre of rotation, then placed at the start position (zero).

Key press "I" to record the first frame as a rotation, then move onto the next frame. Rotate the needle Ry (in my case) until it lines up with the first gauge scale number (say 10psi), and then key "I" to record. Move on to the next frame and repeat, 20, 30 40 and so on.

You strictly don't need to have so many frames animated, 3 will usually do it, but It's so quick to do that why not have all the readings calibrated.

Hi Geoff,

Thanks - I'm getting there - appreciate all the help - I just put in cylindrical panel control indicators for the Throttle and Reverser last night - that rotate 36 degrees for a proper indication - as you change the control positions.


Regards,
Scott

[SD40-2]

I have two air gauges over the brake stand - would they both use the same face? Previous to this - I've never spent much time with 2D Cabs to take notice - usually driving from the HUD.

One set for be labeled for the Main Reservoir and Equalizing Reservoir, one set for the Brake Cylinder and Brake Pipe. The only thing that'd change would be the labels, the indications and range would be the same.

[scottb613]

Hi Parker,

Thanks - a "Two-Fer" even better.

Ron's image is so perfect - it's like he's done this before.


This is just a quick edit - but - I think it will work quite well. Two more gauge faces down with little effort on my part - very cool.

This will stagnate for a bit - as I have some Holiday Travel starting tonight - I won't have a chance to work on this again for a week or so.





Regards,
Scott

[rdayt]

Scott,
The amount of research and detail you're puting into this is admirable.
That's a very nice airbrake dial face. I think you've got them figured out.
Enjoy your trip, or don't. Travel safe.

Randy

Edit: They didn't have phillips head screws until the 60s.

[scottb613]

Scott,
The amount of research and detail you're puting into this is admirable.
That's a very nice airbrake dial face. I think you've got them figured out.
Enjoy your trip, or don't. Travel safe.

Randy

Edit: They didn't have phillips head screws until the 60s.

Hi Randy,

Thanks - nothing like a little help from your friends.

LOL - oops - I'll swap screw heads when I get back - or - I may need to blank that out - I'll see when positioning the gauge face on the mesh...
🙄

Regards,
Scott

[pwillard]

I do have a usable logo recreation at this point.

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[scottb613]

Hi Pete,

Absolutely superb. It’s a beautiful logo. Marek is working an Alco - might prove useful to him as well.

I was perusing your site the other day - noticing the great fonts - have plans to try some when I do skins for BO CO WM for the new Sandpatch - granted - RS3’s are not era appropriate for what is being modeled - maybe just simulating leftovers working some local ops on various coal mines.

Regards,
Scott