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  • TrainSimJack
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    • Jul 2022
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    #16
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    Amazing how long it took to install something from CD back in the day. It's still going, 38%

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    • niknak
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      #17
      Originally posted by R. Steele
      Yeah, Jimmy Dean made some good sausage.🤪
      for serving at the Five and Dime ?
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      • R. Steele
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        #18
        Originally posted by niknak
        for serving at the Five and Dime ?
        Nice catch, but we are hilariously so far off topic...
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        • eric
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          #19
          and for once, it's not my fault.
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          • eric
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            #20
            TrainSimJack if you find anything off in the tutorial steps, let me know...

            With the Steam4Me tutorials lost to those who don't know about the Wayback, the ones here will probably get more use...
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            • slipperman
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              • May 2010
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              #21
              Hi Jack,
              Originally posted by TrainSimJack
              Amazing how long it took to install something from CD back in the day. It's still going, 38%
              You may have come across the CD2 problem!! That disk is protected by the SecuRom protection system. Unfortunately, it's no longer supported by Window 10 and the disk takes absolutely ages to finish, if it ever does!

              If your CD2 is still struggling, I suggest you abort the run, delete all files and folders that have been created, then try the 'Solution'.

              The solution is to copy the contents of both CDs into one temporary folder on your hard drive (allow one file to overwrite). When completed, open the folder, right-click SETUP.exe and select 'Run as administrator'. Please note - DO NOT allow MSTS to install into C:\Program Files or C:\Program Files (x86 - specify you own folder outside of all the folders created by Windows on Drive C.

              Cheers,
              Ged

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              • TrainSimJack
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                • Jul 2022
                • 527

                #22
                Thanks Ged! I'm on windows 11, and it did take forever, but it seemed to complete.

                Now I'm off to the tutorial to see how this gets integrated with openrails so OR can find the relevant content..

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                • motormaster532
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                  • Jan 2011
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                  #23
                  When you get set up,this is important. You MUST have a separate Installation for Open Rails{already mentioned}. You are able to use MSTS rolling stock{for the most part} on your Open Rails Installation. However,this is important,YOU CANNOT,REPEAT CANNOT use Open Rails exclusive Rolling Stock on your MSTS Installation. You will only get "error" messages galore! Have fun! Brian

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                  • oper190
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                    • May 2010
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                    #24
                    For anyone else wanting to install MSTS into an OR setup, what I did was copy my entire MSTS install from my older XP onto a flash card, then it was just copy and past the needed files, Trainsets, Consists, and Routes as wanted into the OR folders. When I installed MSTS on my Windows 11 gamer I just did a minimum install ( disk 1 and and a little from disk 2, - no Routes or Trainset ) and then copied the rest from the flash card into the MSTS install. Went rather quickly that way.
                    Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                    Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                    • TrainSimJack
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                      • Jul 2022
                      • 527

                      #25
                      Here's where I'm at.

                      I installed my new MapleLeafTracks route to F:\OR_MapleLeafTracks.

                      That didn't work originally.

                      Installed MSTS full install to F:\MSTS

                      Copied over the Global and Sound folders from MSTS to F:\OR_MapleLeafTracks\Niagara Corridor

                      Now things are working.

                      I assume I still need to copy/merge the MSTS \ Trains, MSTS \ TRAINSETS, MSTS \ Consists over to F:\OR_MapleLeafTracks\Niagara Corridor so that the route I purchased will have access to the out of the box rolling stock.

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                      • oper190
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                        • May 2010
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                        #26
                        Yes you need the required Trainsets, & Consists that the route need. Good idea to copy the entire Trainset folder as many activities still might use default stock or consists. If not in these routes others you might add on later.
                        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                        Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                        • derekmorton
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                          #27
                          >Trainsets, Consists, and Routes as wanted into the OR folders

                          Bad idea, when OR does an update, it will delete ALL CONTENTS of the OR folder.

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                          • TrainSimJack
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                            • Jul 2022
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by derekmorton
                            >Trainsets, Consists, and Routes as wanted into the OR folders

                            Bad idea, when OR does an update, it will delete ALL CONTENTS of the OR folder.
                            It's ok Derek, I had assumed oper190 meant the folder structure used in content manager, not the openrails executable folder.

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                            • eric
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                              #29
                              Pretty much everything that's been said here is in the ORT Tutorial...


                              This is a work in progress. Please add to the comments if you see things you'd like to add or correct. Running the Microsoft / Open Rails Train Simulator is




                              Originally posted by derekmorton
                              Bad idea, when OR does an update, it will delete ALL CONTENTS of the OR folder.
                              Absolutely... although I don't think oper190 was suggesting to install content into the ORTS program directories, but instead to an OR_Content type directory. Perhaps he can clarify.

                              Originally posted by TrainSimJack
                              I assume I still need to copy/merge the MSTS \ Trains, MSTS \ TRAINSETS, MSTS \ Consists over to F:\OR_MapleLeafTracks\Niagara Corridor so that the route I purchased will have access to the out of the box rolling stock.
                              ​
                              If you want to keep your MLT items segregated from Train Simulations, this approach would work. There's also nothing having other routes from the library or other suppliers in that F:\OR_MapleLeafTracks folder as long as they share a common track system...

                              My suggestion is to have a specific Content folder e.g. F:\OR_Content that my routes and trains go into. They share a GLOBAL directory which doesn't use DDS textures.

                              My setup:
                              • E:\MSTS\ ------------------> MSTS executables and default content)
                              • E:\ORTS\ ------------------> ORTS executables and utilities)
                              • E:\TSRE\ ------------------> TSRE executables)
                              • E:\TrainSimulations\ ----> TrainSimulations.net Routes and others that use DDS track textures
                              • E:\CONTENT\ ------------> Streamlines Routes and other downloads that use ACE track textures

                              In a perfect world, ORTS would allow for installation profiles which are a little more granular e.g. specify explicitly which Global, Routes and Trains folder to use. Because it doesn't, there's going to be some duplication in the \TRAINS\TRAINSET folders between E:\TrainSimulations and E:\CONTENT
                              Last edited by eric; 03-17-2024, 17:35.
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                              • oper190
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                                • May 2010
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by eric
                                Absolutely... although I don't think oper190 was suggesting to install content into the ORTS program directories, but instead to an OR Content type directory. Perhaps he can clarify.
                                Yes, I was referring to the OR Content directories NOT the OR Program directories. Should have been more specific.

                                Currently I'm using five Content folders.
                                Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                                Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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