Quick question here - I used "free file sync" to copy / Merge the MSTS original TRAINS folder and subfolders to my OR content folder.
Is there any need/benefit to doing the same with the original MSTS ROUTES folder ?
Not unless you want to download an early 2000's era route that has an install.bat to copy default shapes...
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I'm using at least 5 directories (1 for ZigZag, 1 for TrainSimulations routes, 1 for MSTS content, 1 for the London & Port Stanley and 1 for PRR Eastern Region)
I'm using at least 5 directories (1 for ZigZag, 1 for TrainSimulations routes, 1 for MSTS content, 1 for the London & Port Stanley and 1 for PRR Eastern Region)
Sounds just fine, OR is flexible enough to accommodate all sorts of "Profile" arrangements ( directories ). Some folks have a master trainset with locomotive folders segregated from wagon folders. I have seen at least a dozen different organizations of the OR content profiles. Myself, I have around 50 profiles, all linked to the GLOBAL; SOUND; and the common folders >>> common.cab, common.snd. and common.inc.
Cheers, Gerry
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Sounds just fine, OR is flexible enough to accommodate all sorts of "Profile" arrangements ( directories ). Some folks have a master trainset with locomotive folders segregated from wagon folders. I have seen at least a dozen different organizations of the OR content profiles. Myself, I have around 50 profiles, all linked to the GLOBAL; SOUND; and the common folders >>> common.cab, common.snd. and common.inc.
Oh yeah, that's what I was saying lol, just sharing my setup since it works.
Pretty much any MSTS grade route that required itself to be set up as a mini-route because of customized track pieces in the global folder (and L&PS was definitely one of them) will require its own OR installation. Back then many of these mini-routes were done to conserve MSTS resources, so whatever 'heavy routes' were well in use back then did not conflict with the needs of other shared routes.
Even today, both payware routes that came from 3DTrains featured unique versions of ScaleRoads such that both Feather River and Sherman Hill can not share a combined ORTS instlallation today. When you install Sherman AFTER Feather River, the Sherman installation modifies the ScaleRoads files and they no longer display correctly when running Feather River. Back then, these heavy routes needed to be implemented as mini-routes to work around MSTS software limitations. Those MSTS limitations do not exist in ORTS, but we are stuck with that legacy burden simply due to the choices made by the MSTS-centric designers back then. Timing-wise, Sherman should have been a ORTS jump-off point, a route designed more to meet the needs of ORTS instead, but alas it was not.
we are stuck with that legacy burden simply due to the choices made by the MSTS-centric designer
Not sure that's an entirely fair statement... We're ~15 years into ORTS, and it's still wedded to the concept of a "Global" folder for for track and roads.
Originally posted by Dexter249
Myself, I have around 50 profiles, all linked to the GLOBAL; SOUND; and the common folders >>> common.cab, common.snd. and common.inc.
Are you using junctions, or are there actually 50 copies of Global, Sound, Trainset, etc.
Ideally, the installation profile in ORTS should let you define a profile with separate directories for routes, trains, tracks, and sounds. You can sort of do that with junctions today, but it's not something most people do.
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Eric this quote from your post #37 is not a quote from Dexter249 but something I posted in a response to his post.
Originally posted by Dexter249
Myself, I have around 50 profiles, all linked to the GLOBAL; SOUND; and the common folders >>> common.cab, common.snd. and common.inc.
Originally posted by Eric
Are you using junctions, or are there actually 50 copies of Global, Sound, Trainset, etc?
To answer your question: GLOBAL and SOUND folders are junction linked to all profiles, except those few using their own GLOBAL & SOUND folders ....new TrainSimulations routes for example. Also No Trainset folder has the common folders in them --- common.snd, common.cab & common.inc. They are kept several levels above all my profiles. I edited all the path strings for sound, cab, and include files to reflect this repositioning. No need for junction links. When I make a change to any sound, cabview, or include file it is available to all 50 profiles.
Something that I have advocated to be coded into OR is for OR to recognize these common folders in other locations beside the MSTS Trainset folder, a procedure whereby OR "looks" for the folders in other places --- providing users more freedom in how they design their environment.
It is quite a lot of work to change all those files....I think I'm the only one who's been foolish enough to attempt it.
Cheers, Gerry
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I've been considering junctions, but really need to think thru the topology a bit more first.
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I've been considering junctions, but really need to think thru the topology a bit more first.
That's what I DID NOT do....however....turned my ignorance into a learning experience. I thought most links do not survive copying, cloning or other archiving methods....you have to reconstruct them again. IS that true? ...and there are various types of links....I've not enough solid experience or knowledge about the various types.
Cheers, Gerry
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Isn't there an initiative to do some kind of Virtual File system that'll merge folders on the fly?
I wonder what that would take to get out of the gate.
I think it requires some preparation work and discussion&planning....I think that's the stage where the developers are now...don't take this as gospel...not a developer --- just read the threads.
If Eric sees this response he may post some more accurate information.
Cheers, Gerry
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Isn't there an initiative to do some kind of Virtual File system that'll merge folders on the fly?
Seems to be hung up because of GitHub difficulties... I'll have to see where Peter goes with it.
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