BNSF Seligman.

[chilla]

Just trying to find out if there is a older version of BNSF Seligman that didn't require having open rails and if so is there a way to be able to get it?

[Darkhorse427]

There was a MSTS version of the BNSF Seligman v2.0 route available from Streamlines / Train Simulations, but that was several years ago when the were transitioning from Streamlines to Train Simulations and moving their focus to just Open Rails products. I do not think that it is available from them anymore. I own a copy of it only because I selected the wrong one when both were available, and then purchased the OR only version the next day.

[chilla]

I have the open rails version but I am wanting to get the older version is that possible without it being looked at as piracy?

[oper190]

There is a freeware MSTS ATSF Seligman Sub Route in the file library that covers both the old and new trackage. A six-part download plus an update download as well.

[eric]

That's Bob Wirth's version. File 65779 and currently set up as a bundle for all six parts.

[geepster775]

The track database changed in between the MSTS version of BNSF Seligman 2 and the ORTS version of BNSF Seligman 2. Some CTC controlled sidings used for overtakes had to be lengthened. The ORTS version was designed for a greater AI train count so traffic could run like streetcars, The slower grain, oil and manifests were often overtaken by intermodal trains, and the ill-designed siding lengths in the MSTS version caused these overtakes to crap out, so hence the rebuilding of sidings with more accurate lengths.

Also, the loco fleet in the MSTS version was comprised of 2-piece shapes with some bad LOD settings that eliminated everything below the frame at the greater distances. The OR version was redesigned with1 piece loco shapes and total poly counts that exceeded MSTS capabilities.

[chilla]

Well my issue is I'm trying to run one of Bob Pickering's activity packs ( 2015ssub.zip ) and it seems most of the paths are broken and will not let you run the activities on the openrails version of the route.

[R. Steele]

nd it seems most of the paths are broken and will not let you run the activities on the openrails version of the route.

Well, you can use OR trackviewer to repair the paths. For these activities and this route, that should not be too hard. Pick one activity you'd like to run, and start with that one.

[chilla]

I'm guessing you have to do that manually I tried and it didn't work for me I guess I will have to try again.

[R. Steele]

I'm back --- gal and I have a Sunday bike ride. Let me know a couple of activities you wanted to start with....and I'll post the good paths.
I have the whole activity set installed on ver2 - BNSF Seligman, so I must have fixed the paths. Then you can get right to the fun part.

[chilla]

It doesn't really matter there isn't one in particular pretty much anyone of them since only one of them seemed to even work from that pack.

[chilla]

Also thank you for the help.

[R. Steele]

Also thank you for the help.

You are welcome, I'm in the processing of gathering all the paths, will zip and post here...will take a moment or two....😀

enjoy >>>> (any problems, PM me. ) >>> 2015_BNSF2_paths.zip