1974 Amtrak Empire Builder #8 -- No Loose Consists

[Don6218]

First, Kudos for a Great Activity with lots of Traffic Trains. Trouble is, after hunting and loading all the required rolling stock for this activity, I saw NO Loose Consists in any Yards/Sidings through the whole activity. The traffic trains showed up and were great to see. This was Part one, now I am ready to start part two.
Just a note, nothing in particular showed up in the OR Log, and the ONLY Consist that I was not able to load was the BLW_ZT Amtrak. I used replacements that I had on hand for the Player Train.
Any thoughts as to why no "Loose Consists"?

[amtrak115]

Don,

it appears there are no "loose consists" defined at all in the activity file in the zip file.

Amtrak115

[spoony1999]

I had a handful of loose consists show up for parts 1 & 2 in the “Activity consists” portion of TSRE Activity editor. I haven’t had a chance to run the activity yet though.

[daniellouwrens]

Don,

it appears there are no "loose consists" defined at all in the activity file in the zip file.

Amtrak115

With OR "Loose consists" are no longer required to be defined in the ACT file.

I don't know if this is relevant to your question.

I have run both parts of the Act and did not see any issues.

Cheers

Daniel (spoken with not a lot of knowledge)

[crstagg]

With OR "Loose consists" are no longer required to be defined in the ACT file.

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Cheers

Daniel (spoken with not a lot of knowledge)

Daniel,

I think you have that a bit wrong. Loose Consists in ORTS do not have to be named "Loose Consist" but do need to be defined (contents listed) in ACT files. They can have meaningful names such as "4 Tank cars at Lone Star Oil #3".

[daniellouwrens]

Daniel,

I think you have that a bit wrong. Loose Consists in ORTS do not have to be named "Loose Consist" but do need to be defined (contents listed) in ACT files. They can have meaningful names such as "4 Tank cars at Lone Star Oil #3".

Thanks Charles

I live and I learn...

We appreciate your ongoing support on the forum and with CB issues

Regards

Daniel

[Don6218]

1974 Amtrak Empire Builder #8 -- No Loose Consists 2

Hello, yes there are loose consists defined in the Activity Section, i have included one for Cle Elum Yard, which never showed while running the activity. I could not find them in TSRE5 CB either.
New Text Document.zip

[crstagg]

Don,
Post the OR Log.txt file from running the Activity at fails to display the loose consists.

[wmuzeke]

Hi Don. This is my activity so I am particularly curious why the loose consists aren't showing up for you. I count 24 loose consists in part 1 and 19 in part 2. They are listed in the main .act files (not the ones in the OpenRails folders). There are no corresponding .con files for the loose consists so you won't find them in TSRE Consist Builder. If everything is working correctly, when you start part 1, you should see the North Coast Hiawatha parked 2 tracks over to your left at King St. Station and one of the Mount Rainier trains whose headend should be parked next to you abeam your first dome car. The rest of the loose consists are scattered throughout the activity (Argo Yard, Seattle Intermodal, Covington, Lester Yard, etc.) At the very end of part 1, you should see the BN Local with the F-units parked in the distance at East Cle Elum. In part 2, most of the loose consists are at Ellensburg and Cle Elum. If you have installed stock in a differently-named folder than what is in the .act file, then they will not show up. I'm not sure ORTS would show an error in the log for that either. I suggest running the activity through MSTS ActMan - msts_actman_v4-0.zip in the file library - to see if it catches anything. It will tell you if stock is missing from both the .con files and the .act files. Just make sure to check the "Open Rails" box near the top right of the main menu before you run it.

[eric]

We appreciate your ongoing support on the forum and with CB issues

I second that.

[crstagg]

re: ConBuilder and Loose Consists.
Do not use ConBuilder to test for the presence of Loose Consists in Activities written for ORTS. As the code in CB searches ACT files for "Loose Consist" to list/edit the contents. If the creator has used a meaningful name they will not be found by CB.

[Don6218]

Thank you for your response. First, not finding the "Loose Consists" in TSRE5 CB was my fault, second I did run MSTS Act-Man to get all the stock. I am now running Part 2, and so far so good, Various sidings are full of rolling stock and locos. I am going to rerun part 1 when I get a chance, I do not know why nothing showed up in part 1, but I am sure going to try to find an answer.
BTW, Great Activity with lots of AI Action! I appreciate your time and effort put into this.

[R. Steele]

Apologies, late to the thread, what route is this for? Can anyone reference a file library file name for me. Unfamiliar with this activity, would like to set it up. I'll start searching for it when I've got the time...just panhandling for a shortcut.

[spoony1999]

Apologies, late to the thread, what route is this for? Can anyone reference a file library file name for me. Unfamiliar with this activity, would like to set it up. I'll start searching for it when I've got the time...just panhandling for a shortcut.

Milwaukee Coast 1st and 2nd Division.

https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/tslib.php?do=copyright&fid=37852

“Run Amtrak's Empire Builder on its former route over Stampede Pass in 2 parts using the Milwaukee Road Coast Second and First Subdivision routes.”

I think this is the first publicly released Act for both of those Routes.

[Don6218]

Yes, I think so. All I had in my files for these two routes was for a Test Run.