ATSF La Junta-Pueblo Subs Amtrak #3

[Don6218]

Hello, I am not able to even start this activity to continue my passengers to their destinations.
I ran the Route through R-R and confirmed everything is in place through Act-Man as well as other programs. Other activities are working fine on this route.

I have included a copy of the pop-up I get when I press ESC to start the game as well as the OR Log.
ATSF Junta Sub.jpg
OpenRailsLog.zip

[amtrak115]

I'll check your log against mine. I ran the activity just before I zipped it all down....will let you know if I see something...

amtrak115

[jiggywatt]

Same here...

[Don6218]

I'll check your log against mine. I ran the activity just before I zipped it all down....will let you know if I see something...

amtrak115

Looks like a problem with one or more trains that are too long and overhanging other paths according to part of my OR Log.

[lumberman]

Error: System.Collections.Generic.KeyNotFoundException: The given key was not present in the dictionary.
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.get_Item(T Key key)
at Orts.Simulation.Signalling.DeadlockInfo.GetEndSect ion(Train thisTrain) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \Signalling\Signals.cs:line 14315
at Orts.Simulation.Signalling.DeadlockInfo.CheckDeadl ockPathAvailability(TrackCircuitSection startSection, Train thisTrain) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \Signalling\Signals.cs:line 13824
at Orts.Simulation.Signalling.TrackCircuitSection.IsA vailable(TrainRouted thisTrain) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \Signalling\Signals.cs:line 5883
at Orts.Simulation.Signalling.TrackCircuitSection.IsA vailable(Train thisTrain) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \Signalling\Signals.cs:line 5902
at Orts.Simulation.Signalling.TrackCircuitSection.Can PlaceTrain(Train thisTrain, Single offset, Single trainLength) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \Signalling\Signals.cs:line 7254
at Orts.Simulation.Physics.Train.CalculateInitialTrai nPosition(Boolean& trackClear) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \Physics\Train.cs:line 4758
at Orts.Simulation.AIs.AI.AddToWorld(AITrain thisTrain) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \AIs\AI.cs:line 973
at Orts.Simulation.AIs.AI.AIUpdate(Single elapsedClockSeconds, Boolean preUpdate) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \AIs\AI.cs:line 650
at Orts.Simulation.Simulator.Update(Single elapsedClockSeconds) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Simulation \Simulator.cs:line 747
at Orts.Viewer3D.Viewer.Update(RenderFrame frame, Single elapsedRealTime) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Viewe r.cs:line 702
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateViewer3D.Update(R enderFrame frame, Double totalRealSeconds) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateViewer3D.cs:line 121
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.Update() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 128
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.DoUpdate() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 108
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.UpdaterProcess.UpdaterThre ad() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\UpdaterProcess.cs:line 74
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(Exec utionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()
Me too. thanks

[Don6218]

Yup! Looks like the same warning window that I got, and probably the same as jiggywatt got as well.

These trips have been error free all along, I am looking forward to running this one!

[jiggywatt]

The activity starts, but as soon as I click on continue playing I get the pop ups then it crashes.

OpenRailsLog.zip

[R. Steele]

VDbId ( 4294967294 )
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_Skip ( "TS DB-Utility - Version: 3.4.05(13.10.2009), Filetype='World', Copyright (C) 2003-2009 by ...CarlosHR..." )

Above underlined line provokes all the world file warnings:

Warning: Expected end of file in D:\MSTS\ROUTES\atljsb\World\w-011929+014214.w:line 57

Easy enough to remove with a search and replace editor, just replace it with a blank space. You'll have to uncompress all the world files first, then compress them.

This warning:

Warning: Start position of front of train 86, service name STATIC-32894 not on route

Warning: Not sufficient track to place train

Warning: Start position of front of train 113, service name STATIC-32923 not on route

Warning: Not sufficient track to place train

Warning: Start position of front of train 123, service name STATIC-32933 not on route

Warning: Not sufficient track to place train

<<< loose consists need realignment --- could be causing trouble starting, maybe not.

This warning:

Information: Invalid passing path defined for train 167 at section 152 : overlaps with other passing path

and this warning:

Warning: Multiple passing paths at the same location, without common branch out, or return switch. Check the passing paths for Train name: W-HUNW (number: 167), and other train's paths, which have passing paths at the same locations

more than likely the reason the activity fails...paths need work.

This warning:

Warning: D:\MSTS\trains\trainset\BNSF_SD40_8010\BNSF_SD40_8 010.eng locomotive's CabView references non-existent EMD-2-DS.cvf

Somebody is missing a cabview, a problem if it's the player locomotive, should be fixed in any case.

All the other "missing streams in the sms files" "cannot parse constant number" should also be looked at...point is...the more warnings you jam the log with, the higher the possiblity becomes that you'll eventually choke OR. It's robust enough to run with a lot a warnings but ya never know.

[amtrak115]

Was having a computer issue today, I'll check the activity first thing in the morning and upload a correction. I kind of know what happened with the loose consists....In TSRE you have to press the button to stop placing consist before you try and move....I thought I had caught all of those, must have missed a few....sorry about that ...

Amtrak115

[amtrak115]

Gerry,

I corrected the 3 static trains...they were all on dead-end sidings so it shouldn't have caused the problem.

the warning... Information: Invalid passing path defined for train 167 at section 152 : overlaps with other passing path

I'm not seeing that. also Do know how to identify "section 152" on path??

There was a missing file for the cabview of an AI locomotive. I missed that one. I've downloaded and have the correction.

One other thing. I've tested with OR testing version, and OR MG version...but I seldom run the static version. Could the differences between the static and TESTing/MG version might be causing something???

Barry Aka Amtrak115

[R. Steele]

Gerry,

I corrected the 3 static trains...they were all on dead-end sidings so it shouldn't have caused the problem.

I agree with that, if OR cannot place static consists, it just shows a warning and doesn't load them...it will run the activity.

the warning... Information: Invalid passing path defined for train 167 at section 152 : overlaps with other passing path

I'm not seeing that. also Do know how to identify "section 152" on path??

There was a missing file for the cabview of an AI locomotive. I missed that one. I've downloaded and have the correction.

One other thing. I've tested with OR testing version, and OR MG version...but I seldom run the static version. Could the differences between the static and TESTing/MG version might be causing something???

Barry Aka Amtrak115

I don't know how to identify a section, best you could do is to recheck the paths. I did not download the activity, I was just providing some information about the log warnings. If I had encountered this, I would have checked all the paths and probably re-worked them.
I rarely run the static ( last stable version ) I'm running OR monogame 92 currently.

[amtrak115]

I'm not seeing the path problem on my system. I've made a slight change to one path, can anyone try this on your system and tell me if it cleared up the problem?? xhutnew.txt Click on the file name (xhutnew.txt), save it to your system, then copy the file into the paths directory for laJunta and then rename it to xhutnew.pat then try the activity again.. let me know if this corrects the issue

[amtrak115]

Gerry,

ref: VDbId ( 4294967294 )
)
)
_Skip ( "TS DB-Utility - Version: 3.4.05(13.10.2009), Filetype='World', Copyright (C) 2003-2009 by ...CarlosHR..." )
Above underlined line provokes all the world file warnings:
Warning: Expected end of file in D:\MSTS\ROUTES\atljsb\World\w-011929+014214.w:line 57
Easy enough to remove with a search and replace editor, just replace it with a blank space. You'll have to uncompress all the world files first, then compress them.


What do you mean, you'll have to uncompress all world files then compress them???

Barry

[Don6218]

I'm not seeing the path problem on my system. I've made a slight change to one path, can anyone try this on your system and tell me if it cleared up the problem?? [ATTACH]81349[/ATTACH] Click on the file name (xhutnew.txt), save it to your system, then copy the file into the paths directory for laJunta and then rename it to xhutnew.pat then try the activity again.. let me know if this corrects the issue

I had no concerns show up for PATHS in any of the diagnostics I ran including the Correction of Paths in Open Rails. It would definitely appear to be an issue with Overlapping Paths and/or trainsets that are too long for the Path they are on.

[R. Steele]

Gerry,

ref: VDbId ( 4294967294 )
)
)
_Skip ( "TS DB-Utility - Version: 3.4.05(13.10.2009), Filetype='World', Copyright (C) 2003-2009 by ...CarlosHR..." )
Above underlined line provokes all the world file warnings:
Warning: Expected end of file in D:\MSTS\ROUTES\atljsb\World\w-011929+014214.w:line 57
Easy enough to remove with a search and replace editor, just replace it with a blank space. You'll have to uncompress all the world files first, then compress them.


What do you mean, you'll have to uncompress all world files then compress them???

Barry

A routes World files "*.w" are usually in compressed form in the "World" folder. You need to decompress them in order to remove or change the line that provokes the warning in OR. In decompressed form world files can be opened with any text editor --- Context, Notepad++ and others.

After the line is removed or changed the world files have to compressed. RouteRiter will do this, so will the Zipper utility >>> https://msts.steam4me.net/utilities/index.html#tkutils

Zipper is for anyone that wants to (de)compress shape and world files. It's an user friendly replacement for the MSTS ffeditc utility. Can process individual files and/or recurse through folders processing all files it can find. Starting from your main Train Simulator folder it could process all s & w files in your entire installation. Full instructions in readme in download package.

I'm sure there are other methods to (de)compress world files, not being a route builder, I'm not familiar with them.