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  • Don6218
    1500 Post Veteran
    • Jun 2009
    • 1834
    • Oshawa ON

    #1

    New Metro North Activities

    Hello all. Maybe I am missing something, but hopefully someone can set this matter straight for me.

    First, I have the Metro North Route by Michael Kurras, Ryan Murphy, and Cory Duguid installed, now when the File amth_95 is opened, there are the two regular files, Routes & Trains. However, and this is where my old mind has gotten confused as I opened the "Routes" folder and it has multiple folders inside.

    One for ConrailIndy 2, which I do not have, one for CSX A&WP, also do not have, one for PRR EAST REG which I do have and one for usax, which appears to be for the Metro-North Route.

    Which file(s) do I use to run this activity please? Do I need all of these routes installed? The folder for PRR just has a text document for rolling stock.

    Thank you for any help with this.
  • R. Steele
    3500 Post Veteran

    • Feb 2013
    • 3928
    • known universe
    • ORTS

    #2
    Looks like "bad packaging", I'd use only the Act files for the Metro-North Route...see how it goes. It appears someone forgot to check the work before uploading.
    Cheers, Gerry
    "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
    It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
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    • chastrains11
      New Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 19

      #3
      That was my bad sorry...Only use the Files for the Metro-North Route. If you still have any questions let me know.

      Chuck

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      • R. Steele
        3500 Post Veteran

        • Feb 2013
        • 3928
        • known universe
        • ORTS

        #4
        I know how it goes, I spend bunches of time obsessing over errors when I'm uploading files to the library, cannot count how many times I have simply overlooked something...it happens.
        Cheers, Gerry
        "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
        It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
        Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
        Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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        • Don6218
          1500 Post Veteran
          • Jun 2009
          • 1834
          • Oshawa ON

          #5
          Thanks guys! It does work, I have most of the equipment so I am happy running my train.

          These things happen, I had to reinstall the route (corrupted from old computer) as well as download it again.

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          • conductorchris
            2500 Post Veteran

            • Mar 2010
            • 2905
            • Vermont
            • General

            #6
            Chuck, since you are here, let me say 'Thank you'. I'd rather have an activity with a glitch than no activity! Thanks for sharing.

            I'm still chasing rolling stock I need so I haven't run it yet (I'm also chasing time . . . ) -- but it looks like a good one and I'm looking forward to it.

            Christopher

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            • cn bala
              1000 Post Veteran
              • Jun 2005
              • 1213
              • north of United States

              #7
              I am not sure what is with Acela 2020? Is that a locomotive or passenger car or what? I have trouble trying to find the file to download here in the file library and came up empty. Anyone know what is Acela 2020? I can make a subsitute for this but need to know the right locomotive or passenger car.

              Thank you,

              John

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              • cn bala
                1000 Post Veteran
                • Jun 2005
                • 1213
                • north of United States

                #8
                Got the file with the help of other trainsimmer and friend too through email.

                John

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                • Don6218
                  1500 Post Veteran
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1834
                  • Oshawa ON

                  #9
                  Mnrr m2

                  Hello, a question about the excellent MNRR M2's that are available here. In the activity they are running as AI's and none of the pantographs are raised when in AI use or Loose Consist.
                  When leaving New Haven on this run to Penn Station are they using the "Third Rail" for power by mistake?

                  Just asking because I was expecting them to all be raised, but none are. After checking in Google for "Metro North @ New Haven" I see in the pictures that all the M2's have their Pantographs in a raised position.

                  8501_mnrr_m2b.zip8502_mnrr_m2a.zip

                  I have included the engine files, one has a Pantograph and the other is a Trailer.

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                  • crstagg
                    4500 Post Veteran


                    • Nov 1999
                    • 4885
                    • Huntsville, AL
                    • Texan
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Don6218
                    Hello, a question about the excellent MNRR M2's that are available here. In the activity they are running as AI's and none of the pantographs are raised when in AI use or Loose Consist.
                    When leaving New Haven on this run to Penn Station are they using the "Third Rail" for power by mistake?

                    Just asking because I was expecting them to all be raised, but none are. After checking in Google for "Metro North @ New Haven" I see in the pictures that all the M2's have their Pantographs in a raised position.

                    [ATTACH]77437[/ATTACH][ATTACH]77438[/ATTACH]

                    I have included the engine files, one has a Pantograph and the other is a Trailer.
                    ???? ENG files have nothing to do with Pantographs.
                    Charles

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                    • cn bala
                      1000 Post Veteran
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 1213
                      • north of United States

                      #11
                      Charles -- So what is your explanation about this above?

                      John

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                      • crstagg
                        4500 Post Veteran


                        • Nov 1999
                        • 4885
                        • Huntsville, AL
                        • Texan
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cn bala
                        Charles -- So what is your explanation about this above?

                        John
                        I have no idea why the Pantographs are not raised. BUT I do know that the answer is NOT in the ENG files as there is no entry in ENG files for Pantographs. AND don't assume that they are "missing" from these ENG files. Look at the ENG/WAG tech documents. There is no keywords or parameters for them in ENG files.

                        Knowing that, I assume that the shape file has two _______. One with the Pantograph up and the other with it down. The display of which would be controlled by the P key for the drivable electric engines. Perhaps there is a _______ that is set as default and these engine shapes have the down as default.

                        BUT this is all assumptions on my part. Editing shapes is beyond my pay grade.
                        Charles

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                        • cn bala
                          1000 Post Veteran
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 1213
                          • north of United States

                          #13
                          Thank you to you, Charles for your information and I don't know much about this but you explain about the Pantographs. Now I see how the Pantographs work with the key commands.

                          John

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                          • Don6218
                            1500 Post Veteran
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1834
                            • Oshawa ON

                            #14
                            Charles, there is an entry in the engine files for the Pantographs, right near the bottom.

                            Horn ( 0 1 0 )
                            Vigilance ( 0 1 0 )
                            PantographToggle1 ( 0 1 1 )
                            PantographToggle2 ( 1 1 1 )
                            PantographsToggle_4 ( 0 1 1 )

                            Headlights ( 0 0.25 1 0 )
                            Wipers ( 0 1 0 )
                            BellToggle( 0 1 0 )

                            This is in the Engine file and why I was asking this question, because checking other "Eng" files, this is the only one that has these three entries.

                            Is there some way that OR can identify one of those to raise them for AI Locos? The other Electrics in the Activity all have the Pantographs raised correctly, so I was wondering where or what is the difference with these particular ones? When used as the Player Train the pantographs raise accordingly, only when used as traffic they have this issue.

                            Anyone have experience writing "ENG" files?

                            Thank you in advance and thank you Charles for your response.

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                            • R. Steele
                              3500 Post Veteran

                              • Feb 2013
                              • 3928
                              • known universe
                              • ORTS

                              #15
                              Don

                              From the Manual:
                              8.3.1 Pantographs
                              The pantographs of all locomotives in a consist are triggered by Control Pantograph First and Control Pantograph
                              Second commands ( <P> and <Shift+P> by default ). The status of the pantographs is indicated by
                              the Pantographs value in the HUD view.
                              Since the simulator does not know whether the pantograph in the 3D model is up or down, you can set
                              some additional parameters in order to add a delay between the time when the command to raise the
                              pantograph is given and when the pantograph is actually up.
                              In order to do this, you can write in theWagon section of your .eng le or .wag le (since the pantograph
                              may be on a wagon) this optional structure:
                              From a GG-1 ENG section of the engine file: try changing what you have to the lines below. Additionally, there may be something wrong with the shape files. That's it, that's all I know, you may need to wait until someone with experience with electrics finds the thread.
                              Code:
                              PantographToggle1 ( 0 1 1 )
                                         PantographToggle2 ( 0 1 0 )
                              Cheers, Gerry
                              "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                              It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                              Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                              Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

                              https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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