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  • GuyGibson
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    • Nov 1999
    • 11
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    #1

    Dynamic Brakes and Shuswap route

    After appling the dynamics, when I reach a flat track and release them then apply power, all the indications in the cab show power to the wheels but the train still rolls to a halt!

    Nothing I do will intice it to start again.

    Has anyone had the same problem?

    John
  • qballbandit
    6500 Post Veteran

    • Jan 2006
    • 6522
    • Elgin Il., USA.
    • MSOR

    #2
    Did some mishap trip you into emergency (blow a red signal) or TCS Full Service Braking (overspeed)?
    Happen on the same spot repeatedly?
    Have you looked at the F5 HUD to see what the braking status was when this happened?
    Neil

    Chicago Railroading Fan

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    • GuyGibson
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      • Nov 1999
      • 11
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      #3
      Did some mishap trip you into emergency (blow a red signal)-No, no signal near at any time

      TCS Full Service Braking (overspeed)-No, didn't do that either

      Happen on the same spot repeatedly-It happens everywhere, in all scenarios

      Have you looked at the F5 HUD to see what the braking status was when this happened-Yes, F5 with the braking state shown (Shift F5) shows all brakes released

      John

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      • Vince
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        • Nov 1999
        • 6961
        • Mohave

        #4
        Hi John,

        Try a different engine!
        I'd suggest an engine that has been proved that the dynamics do in fact work correctly.

        The default Dash 9 dynamics do work okay on my OR installation. Right . . . no 'proof' but others may suggest one that they 'know' works.
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        • baldwin
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          • Nov 1999
          • 6358
          • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
          • ORTS

          #5
          Originally posted by GuyGibson
          After appling the dynamics, when I reach a flat track and release them then apply power, all the indications in the cab show power to the wheels but the train still rolls to a halt!

          Nothing I do will intice it to start again.

          Has anyone had the same problem?
          John
          I have just run downhill on dynamics with the westbound coal and transitioned back to power with no problems. I suggest you try it again, and take a screenshot of the F5 HUD information at the point where your train is slowing down with power on. Post that here for us to look at.
          Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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          • GuyGibson
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            • Nov 1999
            • 11
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            #6
            Screenshots

            Open Rails 2016-12-26 10-39-23.jpgOpen Rails 2016-12-26 10-39-25.jpg

            Hi,

            These are from my Westbound Coal and as you can see, although the brakes (Friction and Dynamic) are off, the train is still slowing and continued to do so until it stopped.

            John

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            • baldwin
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              • Nov 1999
              • 6358
              • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
              • ORTS

              #7
              Those shots are too small to read, so cant see what is happening.
              Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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              • launchy
                New Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 10

                #8
                Here, I would like to ask one question. I play Indian Routes in Open Rails and have trouble with activities that involve Loco Reversal.
                How do we uncouple the Loco? If I do this with F9, Loco is uncoupled but brakes are applied, which prevent Loco to accelerate forward or backward. Please guide about the complete procedure.


                Launchy

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                • qballbandit
                  6500 Post Veteran

                  • Jan 2006
                  • 6522
                  • Elgin Il., USA.
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Launchy,
                  I'd suggest starting your own thread instead of piggybacking onto another thread and subject altogether.
                  Neil

                  Chicago Railroading Fan

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                  • Claude350
                    1500 Post Veteran
                    • Nov 1999
                    • 1615
                    • Savannah, Georgia, USA.

                    #10
                    I'm having the same issue. I release the dynamics and I'm not able to get power. The train will coast to a stop. All indicators show the dynamics are released. The amps increase to show power is applied. I'm not in emergency braking. I was using an NS SD70M. I even swapped the engine file with same parameters as the NS engine from another engine and still same results.
                    Last edited by Claude350; 01-02-2017, 15:06.

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                    • tbundy1982
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 672
                      • Louisville, KY

                      #11
                      Confirmed that I'm having the same problem. I just tried the DRGW Green River "Ford Fast" activity in regards to an MSTS General post about SLI brakes. Unfortunately, I never got far enough to test them. I wanted to get outside of Grand Jct. to build some speed and test the air brakes, but before I could I did some minor speed adjustment with the dynamic brakes. Once I got out of town and the grade leveled out, I shut down the dynamics and went for the throttle. Judging by how quickly I stopped, it appeared as though the dynamic remained engaged and tied to throttle movement.

                      Tyler

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                      • Claude350
                        1500 Post Veteran
                        • Nov 1999
                        • 1615
                        • Savannah, Georgia, USA.

                        #12
                        It's the same here.

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                        • R. Steele
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                          • Feb 2013
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                          #13
                          Must be missing something, tried the Westbound Ford Fast on the Green River, throttle to off, dynamics engaged ( 8 sec delay) only needed about 7% to stablilize the speed (little below 70mph), disengaged dynamics properly, slowed down a little, applied throttle, nothing unusual at all. I was watching the extended HUD for locomotives - everything appeared normal. Tried other engines, same result.
                          I'm with Baldwin and Vince.
                          Last edited by R. Steele; 01-03-2017, 17:57.
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                          • crstagg
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                            • Nov 1999
                            • 4885
                            • Huntsville, AL
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                            #14
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                            Last edited by crstagg; 01-03-2017, 18:43.
                            Charles

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                            • geepster775
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                              • Sep 2006
                              • 2846
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                              #15
                              I encountered the same problem on the Ford Fast activity. Did not experience the problem with the Winds of Change activity (windmill train) that starts in the same location.

                              Comparing the two ACTs, I think I found the problem - something in the TRAIL eng files is not agreeable with OR, and the 3 units on the Ford Fast (1 cab-equipped player, 2 Trail) are creating a tug of war when you apply power after coming off dynamics, and with it being 2 against 1, the train ultimately comes to a stop. If I manually edit the .CON file for the Ford Past player consist, and delete the TRAIL from the 2 trailing loco entries, everything springs back to normal.

                              The variances between user experiences could be related to those who have purged their AI and TRAIL eng files and those who still have them.
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