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  • R. Steele
    3500 Post Veteran

    • Feb 2013
    • 3928
    • known universe
    • ORTS

    #1

    player starting speed & brakes

    Reading another post brought back to memory a problem I thought had been solved, or at least a work around had been posted. I cannot find the original source or thread. Looked at Steam4Me, OR Manual, and Rich Garber's Activity Manual.

    Here's the situation: Player Consist is two engines, starting speed in service file is set to 3. Player train starts at speed with train brakes off and engine brakes at 100%.

    Why are the engine brakes set at all? I cannot seem to find any other file that would control the state of the player train brakes at the start of an activity. An OR Bug? (This is where I seem to remember a fix...but cannot recall it)

    Just out of curiosity, what do these control...[found no answers or conflicting answers in sources I checked]
    1. MaxWheelAcceleration ( 0 )
    2. StartInWorld ( 0 )
    3. EndInWorld ( 0 )

    Code:
    SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0v0t______
    
    Service_Definition (
    	Serial ( 9 )
    	Name ( "LS&I Dock Job" )
    	Train_Config ( LS&I_U30+C30 )
    	PathID ( "Dock Job" )
    	MaxWheelAcceleration ( 0 )
    	Efficiency ( 0.9 )
    	TimeTable (
    		StartingSpeed ( 3 )
    		EndingSpeed ( 0 )
    		StartInWorld ( 0 )
    		EndInWorld ( 0 )
    	)
    )
    Also People, pardon me...I realize these questions have probably been posted a gazillion times before....searched for answers, really, but the search engine TS uses is frankly - a little antiquated... Sorry Nels, LuvYA!

    Come to think of it, I''m a little antiquated, so maybe that's the real problem here.
    Cheers, Gerry
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  • slipperman
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    • May 2010
    • 3787
    • Worksop, UK
    • MSOR

    #2
    Hi Gerry,
    I don't currently have access to the Realmuto/Richter eng/wag file document, but I'm sure the initial state of the engine brakes is specified in this part of the eng file :
    EngineControllers (
    Throttle ( 0 1 0.025 0
    NumNotches ( 1
    Notch ( 0 1 Dummy )
    )
    )
    Brake_Engine ( 0 1 0.0125 0
    NumNotches ( 1
    Notch ( 0 1 Dummy )
    )
    )
    I think it's the 4th parameter with anything above 0 applying proportionally more brake up to 1 indicating full application (but I could be wrong!).

    Cheers,
    Ged
    Last edited by slipperman; 09-23-2016, 14:51.

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    • R. Steele
      3500 Post Veteran

      • Feb 2013
      • 3928
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      • ORTS

      #3
      Got it in one, as usual. Thank You. The engine file, found this section in the Realmuto/Richter eng/wag doc

      Code:
      Brake_Engine ( 0 1 0.05 0
      		NumNotches( 2
                    	Notch(0    	0 EngineBrakesControllerReleaseStart # absolutely necessary, without brakes don’t release)
      			Notch(0.1	1 EngineBrakesControllerApplyStart )
      In all the engine files used the line reads: Brake_Engine ( 0 1 0.0250 1 [player consist starts at speed - engine brake 100%]
      Changed to: Brake_Engine ( 0 1 0.0250 0 [player consist starts at speed with no loco brake.]

      I think I'll make 0 the default number in all the engine files.
      Cheers, Gerry
      "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
      It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
      Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
      Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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