No brakes

[crstagg]

Hi Dave,
Just comparing the two wag files :
BNgon_box has buffers, but D&H40ftb doesn't - don't think this will cause problem, but you never know!
BNgon_box has correct Damping parameters (N/m/s), but the D&H40ftb values are incorrect - N/m - this is my chief suspect!
Friction values are totally different between the two, but I doubt if that will cause lack of braking. Try substituting one set for the other.
BNg0n_box has its Name before Type whereas the D&H40ftb has it after - again, I don't think it'd have any detrimental effect.

Cheers,
Ged

Re: Buffers http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind..._1#entry174424

[prr4ever]

No Brakes

Mass was not my concern at the moment. I am trying to figure why when both brakes are the same one works and the other does not.

In this set up only those two cars in the consist. with one engine. Engine is okay. PRR GP30, works well in OR.

[prr4ever]

No brakes

I noticed no buffers but buffers should not be a problem. at least they are not in MSTS. I'll add them in and see if it helps.

Ging out with the wife, will be back leter this evening.

[crstagg]

I have both those WAGs in my Trainset. No editing to the original except removing the extra closing paren in the Lights section if it had been there and editing the Name line.

Both work normal in OR.

Suggest you download the originals and use them. FYI the original Mass of the D&H is 28t and the Damping is in N/m/s.
What ever you are using to edit your wags is screwing them up.

[R. Steele]

Me too Charles, it is puzzling why they are exhibiting no brakes for Dave.

I believe I agree with this, all the cars I'm running have this error corrected.... "BNgon_box has correct Damping parameters (N/m/s), but the D&H40ftb values are incorrect - N/m - this is my chief suspect!"

[prr4ever]

No Brakes

Thanks Ged,

I do not normally edit wags beyond brakes and removing lights. So what you see is what was there except for the above two.

Charles, I will try the originals from the box and see what happens. That is if I can find them. Probably in the FL, just have to go and look. All I ever edited other than my own were done with RouteRiter. That was to remove lights and set up brake parameters that were supposed to be more real world but appear to not be.

I have some more stuff that works in MSTS and not in OR. Will find two that are better matched than the two I posted but where one works and the other does not. Kind of hit and miss having time on weekends for Train Sim.

[crstagg]

Thanks Ged,

I do not normally edit wags beyond brakes and removing lights. So what you see is what was there except for the above two.

Charles, I will try the originals from the box and see what happens. That is if I can find them. Probably in the FL, just have to go and look. All I ever edited other than my own were done with RouteRiter. That was to remove lights and set up brake parameters that were supposed to be more real world but appear to not be.

I have some more stuff that works in MSTS and not in OR. Will find two that are better matched than the two I posted but where one works and the other does not. Kind of hit and miss having time on weekends for Train Sim.

See bolded. I suggest you experiment. Take an unedited WAG and edit with RR.

Look at Folder name for the D&H to find original.

[prr4ever]

No Brakes

I will give that a try Charles, hopefully this weekend. If not then early next week.

What puzzles me is the wags I edited already with RR some work in OR, some do not??? Edited all the same, brakes and lights.

[crstagg]

I will give that a try Charles, hopefully this weekend. If not then early next week.

What puzzles me is the wags I edited already with RR some work in OR, some do not??? Edited all the same, brakes and lights.

Different versions of RR maybe.

[prr4ever]

Ok, I solved this brake problem to my satisfaction after many hours of editing wag files. As I could see it all the mods made by Route Riter when I updated the brakes and couplers some months back, before using OR, were causing the no brake problem in OR. As stated many times here the brakes did and do work in MSTS.

My solution. Pick a wag for a car that works ok in OR. Copy everything below the InertiaTensor line.

Go to a wag that does not work. Delete everything below the InertiaTensor line and paste in the copied file from the good wag.

Tiring to the eyeballs, boring as heck but got the job done to my satisfaction.

Of course you can edit the file you copy to whatever values you like before pasting into the wag.

I have no idea if this will work for anyone else. I am not trying to take a jab at RouteRiter. This is simply my experiance with my trainset.

[gkhager]

Hi Dave, glad that you got it working up to your desires. Sorry to hear that it took so long to correct the issues that you had, but thanks for letting us know the outcome. Now for some railroading!

Geoff