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  • tomparker
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 21

    #1

    Trains are below ground

    I just downloaded Open Rails and the tracks on routes I created are undergound. The routes that came with MSTS work OK. Scenery objects display correctly, just the terrain itself is about fifteen feet above track level. Any suggestions?
  • OTTODAD
    1
    • Feb 2001
    • 32344
    • England
    • General

    #2
    Originally posted by tomparker
    I just downloaded Open Rails and the tracks on routes I created are undergound. The routes that came with MSTS work OK. Scenery objects display correctly, just the terrain itself is about fifteen feet above track level. Any suggestions?
    Never heard of anybody experiencing that !

    Just at tracks level or everywhere, burying some of what is in the scenery ?

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    • tomparker
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 21

      #3
      It everywhere. scenery is correct in relationship to the track, terrain is up in the air. Actually sometimes the tracks are underground and sometimes they are several feet above the ground. It's like the terrain and track are out of sync. OpenRails.jpg
      Last edited by tomparker; 07-30-2014, 17:54.

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      • eolesen
        9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



        • Dec 2002
        • 9583
        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
        • English, SQL
        • General

        #4
        Is it possible that you or someone else ran the "Change Altitude of Objects in .W Files" from Route_Riter?

        If all the scenery is below the terrain like the track is, that's what it looks like to me.

        Try raising it by 1M or 2M with that function, and see how it looks. Just back-up your route first...
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        • tomparker
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 21

          #5
          The routes look good in MSTS and I don't think I've ever used Route Riter. Looked at it again this morning and it appears that the the terrain and track are out of sync. There is no terrain for several miles at the south end of my route. I don't see any water or roads, but all terrain objects are there. Of course, any roads or water might be in the next county. At one point I have vehicles on a road, the vehicles are there but the road is missing. My first analysis was wrong, it doesn't apppear to be an elevation issue. but a problem with the terrain not being in sysnc with the route. Could I be picking up the terrain from another route?

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          • eolesen
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            • Dec 2002
            • 9583
            • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
            • English, SQL
            • General

            #6
            Hard to say what happened, but unlikely that you'd be picking up terrain tiles from another route. Each tile is geocoded to where the route is by file name and also within the structure of the file itself.
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            • Vince
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              • Nov 1999
              • 6961
              • Mohave

              #7
              Have you installed any interactive objects on your route? i.e. signals, car spawners, rail grade crossings?
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              • OTTODAD
                1
                • Feb 2001
                • 32344
                • England
                • General

                #8
                Originally posted by tomparker
                The routes look good in MSTS.
                Including your's ?

                Did that start in ORTS at the start of you working on it or later ?

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                • tomparker
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 21

                  #9
                  Yes, a few. A car spawner or two, three or four signals and a grade crossing or two.

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                  • OTTODAD
                    1
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 32344
                    • England
                    • General

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tomparker
                    Yes, a few. A car spawner or two, three or four signals and a grade crossing or two.
                    Could you please answer my question: does your route now look like that in MSTS too ?

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                    • tomparker
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 21

                      #11
                      It works fine in MSTS. No problems. I wrote this route several years ago and it has been run on half a dozen computers (XP, Vista, Windows 7) with no problems. It just acts up when running OPen Roads

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                      • eolesen
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 9583
                        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                        • English, SQL
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                        #12
                        OK, and to clarify, it runs fine in MSTS on the same computer, just not in ORTS?

                        If so, that's a first as far as I know of.
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                        • tomparker
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 21

                          #13
                          To Be precise it now looks normal in MSTS. Problem is in Open Rails only. Screen shot of MStS:msts.jpg

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                          • tomparker
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Yes. Runs fine in MSTS, problem exists in ORTS only.

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                            • OTTODAD
                              1
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 32344
                              • England
                              • General

                              #15
                              Thanks, Tom !

                              That indicates that ORTS has a problem displaying it like MSTS does and it will be a tough job for them trying to find the needle in its haystack !

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