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  • conductorchris
    2500 Post Veteran

    • Mar 2010
    • 2905
    • Vermont
    • General

    #31
    I'm guessing something went wrong in the upload process. was the file too big? I don't think stuff gets rejected here unless there are obvious copyright problems, which I imagine is not the case. I would suggest sending an e-mail to Nels (nels@trainsim.com). He might give special instructions for uploading a large file. After all the work and interest, it would be a shame for it not to make it into the library.
    Christopher

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    • Train-a-Mania
      1500 Post Veteran
      • Jun 2008
      • 1830
      • General

      #32
      Originally posted by conductorchris
      I'm guessing something went wrong in the upload process. was the file too big? I don't think stuff gets rejected here unless there are obvious copyright problems, which I imagine is not the case. I would suggest sending an e-mail to Nels (nels@trainsim.com). He might give special instructions for uploading a large file. After all the work and interest, it would be a shame for it not to make it into the library.
      Christopher
      I'm with Chris. I've never heard of Nels rejecting anything. I'd try it again and just put a disclaimer in the readme that it may not work on all machines.
      Nick - Creator of the Virtual Railroading Review Show
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      • cbff33
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2003
        • 503

        #33
        your route is uploaded now. It made it.

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        • flarrfan2
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 380

          #34
          So I see. It may be that last week's attempt was foiled because the file name had some capital letters. I tried again yesterday with all lower case, and it seems to have worked. A post in the Route Spec forum has been submitted. Though Mervyn says he ran it successfully on Win7, I had other testers that reported sim freezes after crossing the second tile boundary from any start point. Also, there appear to be some path issues when starting from Madison at the east end. But from what I can tell, it runs fine in OR, aside from some signal issues. Some intermediate signals showed approach or even stop in an Explore mode run, though there were no other trains or consists active.

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          • Train-a-Mania
            1500 Post Veteran
            • Jun 2008
            • 1830
            • General

            #35
            Originally posted by flarrfan2
            Some intermediate signals showed approach or even stop in an Explore mode run, though there were no other trains or consists active.
            That could be worth submitting a bug report to the OR team.
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            • OTTODAD
              1
              • Feb 2001
              • 32344
              • England
              • General

              #36
              Installed the route and after deleting all it's activities, paths and services created 2 new ones, using rolling stock I have, one going West to East and the other going East to West.

              Both crash MSTSBin after a short while in both WIN-XP SP3, 4 GB RAM and WIN-7 64-bit, 8 GB RAM and the Router Riter finding nothing missing can not open it in the MSTS Route Editor.

              All signals have been set to Permissive !

              Shame, it is a good looking route with great depth of scenery.

              O t t o

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              • baldwin
                6000 Post Veteran


                • Nov 1999
                • 6358
                • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                • ORTS

                #37
                To be fair Otto, Flarrfan did say that it would not run in Win7. XP or OR only. Funny thing is, I have no trouble with it in Win7. Do not know why I get different results.
                Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                • flarrfan2
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 380

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Train-a-Mania
                  That could be worth submitting a bug report to the OR team.
                  I did not have signal issues in the previous OR build, 1251, I think it was. And Otto's freezes are at the tile boundaries, though testers on XP did not have them. I ran it on my XP machine with BIN and did not have the freezes.

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                  • burgerbern
                    1000 Post Veteran



                    • Mar 2005
                    • 1088
                    • United Kingdom.
                    • UK English
                    • MSOR

                    #39
                    Congrats to all concerned with the route, i have just run for 35mins with a high res consist in camera view 2, 3 and occassionally 4 with no troubles, and what is more that was in Win 7 prof 64bit in MSTS (No OR) frame rates were between 36 - 57fps mostly over 50.

                    my set up is that it is in one of my mini installs on my "G" drive that is just for CSX and has the CSXWASubdivsion as well as the NEC4 route installed with it and as i have 8GB of ram the mem switch is set to 2048, also using MSTS BIN, also experienced no stutter and in 35mins must have crossed many tile boundries. all sliders at max except shadows which i always have switched off as MSTS really does not do good shadows.
                    Last edited by burgerbern; 06-28-2013, 15:54.
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                    Processor: Intel 13th Gen i5-13400F, - Mobo: MSI PRO Z790-P​, - OS: Win 11 Prof 64bit. - Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64GB​ Ram, - Graphics MSI RTX 4060 Ventus 2x Black OC 8GB, - Sound: Asus STRIX SOAR Gaming Soundcard​, - Storage: 7TB SSD's. - Case: BeQuiet! Pure Base 500 Black​.

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                    • flarrfan2
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 380

                      #40
                      Well, that's great...wish I knew why some machines have the freeze issue and others don't. I'm also betting there were no signal issues in MSTS, don't know why the intermediates keep displaying approach and stop in OR, while the absolutes are fine, and there are no other trains or even consists on the route.

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                      • burgerbern
                        1000 Post Veteran



                        • Mar 2005
                        • 1088
                        • United Kingdom.
                        • UK English
                        • MSOR

                        #41
                        No signal issues that i noticed, i started the run in Pensacola heading towards Tallahassee with 2 AC4400,s and a long grain consist all hi res. Its also worth noting that no background services were switched off, Antivirus, firewall, email were all running at the same time.

                        Processor is an intel i5 2400 and the graphics card is a nvidia GTS250 with 1GB of its own memory.
                        Last edited by burgerbern; 06-28-2013, 16:20.
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                        Processor: Intel 13th Gen i5-13400F, - Mobo: MSI PRO Z790-P​, - OS: Win 11 Prof 64bit. - Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64GB​ Ram, - Graphics MSI RTX 4060 Ventus 2x Black OC 8GB, - Sound: Asus STRIX SOAR Gaming Soundcard​, - Storage: 7TB SSD's. - Case: BeQuiet! Pure Base 500 Black​.

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                        • OTTODAD
                          1
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 32344
                          • England
                          • General

                          #42
                          Originally posted by flarrfan2
                          Well, that's great...wish I knew why some machines have the freeze issue and others don't.
                          Running my new activities for this route in ORTS on the WIN-XP SP3, 4 GB RAM computer I have no problems, using the Scalerail TrackProfiles for using ORTS SuperElevated curves.

                          Trying to find out why it crashes in MSTSBin and remove some orphan tracks in the extreme right of the route and delete some unpopulated tiles in that area I can not load it into the MSTS Route Editor.

                          O t t o

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                          • flarrfan2
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 380

                            #43
                            Otto, I much appreciate any help in figuring out the issues. There is one long piece of orphan track in the middle of the route, between River Jct. and Sneads. I left it in because it was the very first piece I laid on the original Tallahassee Sub before realizing it was laid at a wrong angle. The unpopulated tiles at the east end were where I had planned to extend the route another 100 miles or so to near Jacksonville. The GWV at Madison stopped that plan. I did play around after BIN fixed the GWV problem but then went ahead to Pensacola off the western end and never deleted the east end tiles, because they were demexed and I wanted to keep the option of extending off the east end.

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                            • OTTODAD
                              1
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 32344
                              • England
                              • General

                              #44
                              Hi Kent !

                              I am dying to open the route in the Route Editor but can not.

                              So here are some screenies of the route running in ORTS on my WIN-XP computer, using my HS Explorer's overhead #5 Passenger camera and Gold-Spike-X Kosmos environments, not shown well in ORTS, still getting white blotches in the water.

                              O t t o






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                              • flarrfan2
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 380

                                #45
                                Thanks for the pics, Otto. Not sure what the RE issue could be. I was able to start the RE on my Vista laptop, but like in the sim it would crash at a tile boundary. Be sure to check out the big bridge just outside Pensacola heading east. Ron Piccardi was good enough to work it up for me, and I think it is the scenic highlight of the route, as well as an operating challenge because of the grade from either end to the top of the two-mile bridge. Darn draw limits of the sim do detract some from the effect, as you can't see the other side of the bay until you are almost halfway across the bridge. And I do not have the white blotches on the water...I did try out just about every watertop.ace and never found one that eliminated the flashing effect, though the one I did use minimizes it more than any other, even if it doesn't look right at all for Florida panhandle waterbodies, especially the aptly named Blackwater River.
                                Last edited by flarrfan2; 06-28-2013, 17:38.

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