Uploading New Route Specially for OR

[baldwin]

OR in most respects is far better than MSTS ever was on a good day. There are however quite a lot of small things that need to be fixed before it is ready for the big time. The main problem is working out how MSTS does or handles certain things that OR cannot do yet. That said, the original concept is still sound, and my thanks go to the team for producing a good workable solution thus far.

[scottb613]

OBTW - they do have a thread over at Elvas started by the developers - it's a running list of what more needs to be done to make their 1.0 MSTS equivalency goal - sans editors... If there is something missing from .9x - that is available in MSTS - just a suggestion - but I'd post it there... The list - last I checked - wasn't very long...

Regards,
Scott

[landnrailroader]

I don't do as much operating in MSTS or ORTS as I do route creation. But one of the items in this thread mentioned something about 3-d models and a ORTS editor. Like some of the others, the main impediment is the MSTS editor, but I suspect that if it is hard to work out all the kinks in the operating program, it must be a real nightmare to do an editor. Even so, I hope for an ORTS editor one of these days and my hat is firmly off to those folks that volunteer their time to produce it.

J. H. Sullivan
(landnrailroader)

[flarrfan2]

While waiting for this route to be available from the TS.com File Library I downloaded the 2007 TALSUB and converted it to using re-named to X-Tracks DB-Tracks and here it is running in ORTS:

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/orts-db-tracks-talsub-superelevation.wmv

It would appear that ORTS is not using the in the route's World files converted to Dynatrax MSTS Dynamic tracks in it's SHAPES folder, that being the cause for the trackbeds textures not being the same as in straights !

The new route I uploaded Wednesday, which has not yet made the File Library, is all ScaleRail, and there is no more dynamic track. Shawn Kelley did the original Tal Sub SR conversion, and after I replaced all the dynamic track, I added the additional 150 miles in SR. Also, the entire route, including the original Tal Sub, has a lot of enhanced scenery and trackside detail that I left out of the Tal Sub due to FPS limitations on the computer I was using at the time, back in 2003. As noted, aside from a few signal and associated speed limit issues, it seems to work fine in OR but will cause sim freezes at tile boundaries in Win7 and Vista. It has not been tested on Win8 in MSTS, due to the ATI card in my new computer.

[mdeming]

Once I got used to working with ScaleRail I found I did not need dynamic tracks at all. I do all my operating in OR and will dload this one when it is available.

[flarrfan2]

Once I got used to working with ScaleRail I found I did not need dynamic tracks at all. I do all my operating in OR and will dload this one when it is available.

Not sure if I did something wrong in the upload or what, but five days now and the route is not up, so perhaps will never be. Maybe I will just keep it for myself, since there are signal issues, no activities, and there would probably be a lot of MSTS users complaining that it doesn't work on Win7 despite bolded warnings in several places about the problem.

[baldwin]

I suggest dropping a line to Nels, see what has happened to it.

[OTTODAD]

Once I got used to working with ScaleRail I found I did not need dynamic tracks at all. I do all my operating in OR and will dload this one when it is available.

I have not used MSTS Dynamic tracks since fixing the PRR-Eastern Region years ago which had countless problems with them, used Tsection.dat files having been mixed during it's merger of routes, there now being masses of short straight and curved X-Tracks sections.

O t t o

[flarrfan2]

Not sure if I did something wrong in the upload or what, but five days now and the route is not up, so perhaps will never be. Maybe I will just keep it for myself, since there are signal issues, no activities, and there would probably be a lot of MSTS users complaining that it doesn't work on Win7 despite bolded warnings in several places about the problem.

Also found some path issues this morning on the eastern end, so maybe just as well to keep this one private for now.

[mdeming]

there would probably be a lot of MSTS users complaining that it doesn't work on Win7 despite bolded warnings in several places about the problem.

Yes they would. But then again no matter what you do and how you upload it they would complain. As for the no activities I never used included activities in a route if for no other reason than I hate going on a wild goose chase trying to find rolling stock. Anyway if it gets uploaded let us know.

[twpol]

Like some of the others, the main impediment is the MSTS editor, but I suspect that if it is hard to work out all the kinks in the operating program, it must be a real nightmare to do an editor. Even so, I hope for an ORTS editor one of these days and my hat is firmly off to those folks that volunteer their time to produce it.

The editors/tools will indeed be a real nightmare and a huge effort, but we're determined to make them and have some plans in place for how to go about the first stages of it.

[Train-a-Mania]

Kent, I hope that you still plan to upload this to the file library once complete. It would be nice to have another CSX route to choose from.

[srjason747]

If you need someone on XP to beta test to help test any of the new changes due to your path errors you posted about in the other forum, I could help. I usually run CSX so it would be great to help test.

[flarrfan2]

If you need someone on XP to beta test to help test any of the new changes due to your path errors you posted about in the other forum, I could help. I usually run CSX so it would be great to help test.

Thanks for the offer, but the file I uploaded seems to have been lost or rejected, and I'm not presently inclined to work more with it, other than to run it occasionally for myself in OR.

[srjason747]

Your welcome. If you ever come back to it I can help with it!