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  • rdamurphy
    8000 Post Veteran
    • Nov 1999
    • 8429
    • Where Standard Gauge is 3 feet between the rails.

    #1

    Quick Question for Engine file experts...

    Per the MSTS Techdocs:

    "DieselSmokeEffectInitialMagnitude Train Simulator is able to realistically simulate the way a diesel locomotive may produce a different amount of smoke when the engine is first started (i.e. when the player takes control of the locomotive) and when it has been running for a while. Here you can set the initial magnitude of the smoke."

    Does this actually do anything in MSTS?

    Or is this one of those "features?" that never really got off the ground?

    And then, what does this do?

    "DieselSmokeEffectInitialSmokeRate The initial rate at which smoke will be produced."

    And where does the idle smoke rate come from?

    And can anyone point me to:

    And can anyone point me to a copy of "Eng Manual v2.0e by Rudolf Richter", please.

    Robert
    Last edited by rdamurphy; 04-03-2013, 10:10.
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  • drelyea
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 661
    • Big Johnson City, TN

    #2
    Hi,

    I'm not an expert, but yes, changing the values will get a change in MSTS. The idle smoke rate is the Initial Smoke Rate.

    The Initial Magnitude and the Max Magnitude set the range at which it will be produced. Initial Magnitude is also the idle magnitude.

    Max magnitude and max rate are what is produced at the highest notch setting. (Some Honorary Steam Engines on the horizon, I think?)

    Doug Relyea
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    • drelyea
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 661
      • Big Johnson City, TN

      #3
      Hi,

      The Eng Manual is at Steam 4 me, at this link: http://msts.steam4me.net/utilities/index.html#engwag

      Doug Relyea
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      • rdamurphy
        8000 Post Veteran
        • Nov 1999
        • 8429
        • Where Standard Gauge is 3 feet between the rails.

        #4
        So, what is the difference between the "range" and the "magnitude"?
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        • drelyea
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 661
          • Big Johnson City, TN

          #5
          Hi,

          rate is how many of the "animated" polys MSTS will send out the stack(s). Magnitude is how much it will stretch them size-wise.

          Doug Relyea
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          • drelyea
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 661
            • Big Johnson City, TN

            #6
            An example, shot in MSTS
            scrgrb2first.jpg

            These were the settings for the above shot, throttle in notch 8

            DieselSmokeEffectInitialMagnitude( 1.2 )
            DieselSmokeEffectMaxMagnitude( 1.8 )
            DieselSmokeEffectInitialSmokeRate( 0.4 )
            DieselSmokeEffectMaxSmokeRate( 3.1 )

            scrgrb2.jpg

            DieselSmokeEffectInitialMagnitude( 1.2 )
            DieselSmokeEffectMaxMagnitude( 20.8 )
            DieselSmokeEffectInitialSmokeRate( 0.4 )
            DieselSmokeEffectMaxSmokeRate( 35.1 )

            The settings for this shot, and only set on the lead unit. You have to hit the numbers fairly hard to get notable changes in MSTS on the Diesels.
            For comparison, the units at idle
            scrgrb0.jpg

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            • rdamurphy
              8000 Post Veteran
              • Nov 1999
              • 8429
              • Where Standard Gauge is 3 feet between the rails.

              #7
              We're smokin' now!

              Improvement? Still some tweaking to do, we're pulling the smoke plumes from the individual locomotive's engine file now.

              I need some suggestions on freeware locomotives with particularly good smoke parameters for testing...

              Robert

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              • drelyea
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 661
                • Big Johnson City, TN

                #8
                Hi,

                The real difficulty is that MSTS only permits one smoke file for diesels. DieselSmoke.ace in the Global folder Textures folder. One can change this to anything, but all the diesels will use that DieselSmoke.ace. Turbo charged, Non-turbocharged, 8, 12, 16 cylinders, 2 stroke, 4 stroke, Alco, EMD, FM and GE. ( and the rest )

                Doug Relyea
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