v360 thread

[conrail1]

Hello,

Perhaps the reason for the different shadows is because you are both are using different video cards.

Walter I tested the same scene on my ATI 5870 setup on Friday and didn't notice anything different from what was displayed on the Nvidia setup.

The only thing that I can think of that would cause an issue is with some transparency textures that will disappear when using the “Adaptive Multi-sample” AA option with the ATI driver.

I'll post some screen shots of what the shadows look like at the same location using my ATI based setup.

[OTTODAD]

If it was taken at the same time the shadow would be cast over the main line and over the siding track to the far right as in my screen shot.

Is that not what my screenshot shows, including the time when it was taken ?

O t t o

[OTTODAD]

This is how I would prefer the ORTS F5 HUD to display it's data !

There should also be an option to display the more driving relevant part first and after pressing F5 again show the rest if required.

As mentioned in one of my previous posts, train brakes can not be released in the default and add-on locos I have tested running in ORTS.

O t t o

[conrail1]

Is that not what my screenshot shows, including the time when it was taken ?

O t t o

If the suns angle is not the same then obviously not.

I just fired up the ATI setup and low and behold the shadows are displayed the same as with the Nvidia setup.

I’ll post some screen shots.

[OTTODAD]

If the suns angle is not the same then obviously not.

If one tree shows it's shadow pointing to the right as you can see in your and my screenshots then so should all the others.

The issue with my screenshot is that the second tree opposite the 10 miles post casting it's shadow to the right in your screenshot is MISSING in mine !!!

O t t o

[conrail1]

The issue with my screenshot is that the second tree opposite the 10 miles post casting it's shadow to the right in your screenshot is MISSING in mine !!!

O t t o

Again it’s missing because of the suns angle/time of day.

[OTTODAD]

Again it’s missing because of the suns angle/time of day.

I give up, there is just no way I can get through to you.

If the sun shines onto 2 trees which are close together at the same time and from the same angle, causing one to cast it's shadow the way it does then how do you explain that the second tree does not do the same !

This thread has been ruined enough and am not going to respond any more.

O t t o

[conrail1]

I give up, there is just no way I can get through to you.

If the sun shines onto 2 trees which are close together at the same time and from the same angle, causing one to cast it's shadow the way it does then how do you explain that the second tree does not do the same !

This thread has been ruined enough and am not going to respond any more.

O t t o

Lol, maybe this will finally get through to you.


Here are some screens taken at the same location on the FR with dynamic shadows the first three at the same time of day. As you can clearly see they display the same shadow detail as with the Nvidia setup.

All of the screens were taken at 1920x1200 resolution, 8xAA/16AF.


This first screen shot was taken using “Multi-Sample” AA -






Here is “Adaptive Multi-sample” AA which does not cause any disappearing texture with OpenRails.




Finally here is “Super Sample” AA. Comparing this screen shot to the one taken using the Nvidia card you can see the difference in performance between using ATI's super sample AA and Nvidia's, 64 fps with ATI, 140 fps with Nvidia.






Here we see the same location on the FR at the same time of day/sun angle as Otto used, Oh no what happened to that shadow, it's gone when we back the clock up, imagine that, lol.

[GaryG]

If both trees were the same height, the same distance from the rails and both in the screen view then yes there is a problem Otto. If you look at the "problem" screenshot, the shadow that is visible is quite a bit shorter; perhaps the tree with the missing shadow is too far to the left to cast a shadow that is in view.

GaryG

[conrail1]

If both trees were the same height, the same distance from the rails and both in the screen view then yes there is a problem Otto. If you look at the "problem" screenshot, the shadow that is visible is quite a bit shorter; perhaps the tree with the missing shadow is too far to the left to cast a shadow that is in view.

GaryG

Gary all you have to do go to that location in Feather River Route and hit the +/= key to change the time of day and sun angle and the shadow goes in and out of view just like my screen shots prove.

[GaryG]

Hi

If we are looking at the same shadows, the palm tree in view and the other shadow from the palm near the NE corner of the station, a bit north of the red pickup, then there's no problem with ORTS because both trees cast shadows continuously until after dusk on my computer's display.

The shadow from the "magic" tree emerges from the nearer trees around 1300 then continues to get longer. Around 1600, it's still visible crossing the street intersection. At about 1605, it reaches the green car. It disappears a bit after 1622 (streetlights on and stars out).

ATI Radeon HD 5770 Video card - Catalyst Version 10.9
Antialiasing - 8X and Box Filter
Smoothvision HD - 16X
Catalyst AI : Advanced
Mipmap Detail Level: Performance
Wait for vertical refresh: Off, unless application specifies
Anit-Aliasing Mode: Adaptive Multi-sample AA
OpenGL Settings: Triple buffering enabled

ORTS Settings
WOD: 10
SLD: 5
Window Size: 1920x 1030
All options enabled except Overhead wire

The tree is actually a distance far enough from the tracks that its shadow lags the other tree shadow by quite a while but on my computer, once it is visible, does not disappear until dark.

GaryG

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

its obviously because otto thought 18 was 16

[Redcoat_1812]

When i start the "Northbound Priority" activity for MLT CN Bala Sub v1.5 in OR. There are no buildings trackside at the main yard, which is the starting point.

Open the same activity in MSTS and there are buildings lining the trackside, very weird.

Logfile is attached if anyone is interested.

Mike.

[Redcoat_1812]

Same route, same starting point but different activity. First piccie MSTS, the second OR.





New logfile attached.

OpenRailsLog.txt

Mike.

[Redcoat_1812]

I really like the way the sun's position and height in the sky actually dynamically affects the shadows.

The sun is setting over the trees and hillside, to the right..................





So the affect on the far left slope is spot on.



Then as the trackbed turns away to the left and exits the lea of the hill, we get a nice effect on the bridge and piers.



Not sure why i have all these jaggies at the top of the train shadow though.



Mike.