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  • landnrailroader
    4000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 4171
    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
    • ORTS

    #1

    Combining Shapes

    Friends,

    Travis Ebner has come out with some excellent passive crossing signage but in most cases he gives us the parts we want to do them with. I have tried to use TSM to create one of the modern passive crossing signs that has a octagon stop on top, then a sort of painted on crossbucks with a two-direction arrow at the bottom and the word LOOK. Lastly there is a blue identification plate at the bottom. For some strange reason TSM does not let me handle polygons correctly and in the past I have simply created a box that has large sides on two sides, and very thin otherwise. I have used the transnormal material setting, and correct tga files, and I have created hundreds of items this way, no problem. Now for some strange reason I can get a correct image on only one side, No matter what I try, the other side is black.

    Since the set which Travis sent me has the correct signs, post, etc. I know that I can assemble a passive sign, then select the various parts, starting with the post, and then place it where it needs to go but the issue is that to do the whole route will require nearly 100 of these signs, so does TSRE have any capability of saving the assembled sign and then selecting and placing it elsewhere.

    I intended to use Travis' textures although whatever program he uses must allow more than square textures, like 256x512 whereas TSM wants square, like 256x256. I have no problem creating the textures I need. I have let Travis know that I plan to use his textures and footnote this in the route text files on release.

    Jerry Sullivan
  • rdayt
    1000 Post Veteran

    • Nov 2007
    • 1291
    • SW MO
    • ORTS

    #2
    I don't know about saving a set of shapes but you can certainly copy and paste them and they act as a single shape for moving/rotating.

    Randy

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    • landnrailroader
      4000 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 4171
      • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
      • ORTS

      #3
      Randy, Others,

      Well the issue turned out to be that I was messing up TSM, rather it messing up ME. It had been a year or more since I dealt with new textures but I figured out my error and so here is the new passive rx signal. I do need to clean up a little in the top portion - see the little black line to the lower left but I know what I have to do to fix that. Parts of the blue identification will be left blanked out since there are more than 100 of these required on one route. This type of sign is used at private driveways and roads and is seen in profusion along NS in Kentucky and to less extent, CSX. Not so numerous in TN but there are 6 in a row in about a mile, just west of Dossett, TN. The red line is just a tile boundary.

      Jerry

      Jerry NEW_RX_SIG.jpg

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      • eric
        9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



        • Dec 2002
        • 9583
        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
        • English, SQL
        • General

        #4
        Jerry, TSRE does not have that capability per se to do a "shape group" but World File Hacker does something called companion shape placement.

        Place the base and assign it a specific Static Detail Level value, and then create a BerpPlace.txt file with the other component pieces that need to be grouped with it.

        When WFH runs, it will place the companion objects at the same position + QDirection values.

        I've done this with Travis's signals and it's how I do highways bridges and piers/supports (paired to road pieces), telephone/electric wires, control point cabinets (paired up with a switch shape).
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        • landnrailroader
          4000 Post Veteran



          • Nov 1999
          • 4171
          • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
          • ORTS

          #5
          Eric,

          Well, creating the passive crossing sign shown solved the issue. Travis has another passive crossing sign that is also seen. It has a standard crossbucks on top and a octagon stop sign just below. Another is similar, but has a "Yield". triangular sign and he also did that one. However the one I created is apparently a newer type because these are seen at many locations along NS in KY. A few are seen along CSX but the other stop sign and the yield sign are more common on CSX. Travis' system is really good in that he has produced hundred of variants but I just preferred to do it this way for expediency. At 87, I don't know how much longer I have to play with virtual trains.

          Jerry

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          • landnrailroader
            4000 Post Veteran



            • Nov 1999
            • 4171
            • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
            • ORTS

            #6
            Friends,

            Well after tweaking a bit - Travis had given the dimensions (most common i.e.) of the middle sign and the identification sign, but not the stop sign. So I placed my sign in front of his stop sign and adjust the scale of my stop sign to match and then estimated that the post was about 9 feet high. So the result at the first crossinig marked this way, west of Dossett, TN is seen below.

            Jerry Private_Xing.jpg

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