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  • CSXT Q-317
    Senior Member


    • Mar 2008
    • 346
    • Ohio USA
    • ORTS

    #1

    Curious issue

    Maybe someone can shed some light here. I have been having a issue with exporting objects from Blender to my route project.

    I add the required shape files and associated texture files and make my standard ref entries. But it never shows up. I am curious as to whether or not there is a limit of what can be in the ref file itself?
    I have since tried to trim the unused stuff down from the route but Route Riter keeps hanging up on me.
    M. Payne
  • pwillard
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    • Nov 1999
    • 3070
    • Cumming Ga
    • ORTS

    #2
    You will need to explain the exact process you follow.
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    • wacampbell
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2002
      • 492
      • BC, Canada

      #3
      Yes, more info needed. One possibility is mismatched parenthesis somewhere in the .ref file.

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      • CSXT Q-317
        Senior Member


        • Mar 2008
        • 346
        • Ohio USA
        • ORTS

        #4
        A little bit of an update, it seems to me there seems to be a limit of what you can have listed on the routes Ref file. An idea I am not entirely sold on. It is either that of a computer memory issue going on.

        Although I don't know of any limits of how much you can have listed in the ref file.

        I stumbled across this as I was exporting and installing to a test bed route I have with success. After a couple of hours of looking at shape files and how I placed it in the ref file I got the bright idea to install these same shapes into my test bed route and it did not do the same thing and I was able to see it and place it.

        So I started removing older stuff and just like that what I had created and exported showed up in the drop down menu again. So now, it's going back and trimming the fat so to speak.

        It seems that just over 300,000 just over 309,000 characters to be exact seemed to have created problems. Still not entirely sure what had happened.

        I did compare the Pokey 2.0 ref file and mine and it has 625k characters in it. Which kind of leads me to believe that I have some memory issues going on.

        I need to upgrade my rig anyway, this one is around 5 years old and in PC terms that seems to be ancient.
        M. Payne

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        • oper190
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          • May 2010
          • 1498
          • Port Charlotte, FL
          • English
          • MSOR

          #5
          I have my own Ref fie that I'm using with 318K+ characters at 318KB size no problems. Using an old XP based computer that's at least ten years old.
          I therefore suspect you have an issue, some sort of error in yours.
          Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
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          • CSXT Q-317
            Senior Member


            • Mar 2008
            • 346
            • Ohio USA
            • ORTS

            #6
            Originally posted by oper190
            I have my own Ref fie that I'm using with 318K+ characters at 318KB size no problems. Using an old XP based computer that's at least ten years old.
            I therefore suspect you have an issue, some sort of error in yours.
            That is what I thought. But it is only that one route and no others. I am still looking at it. I can export to test routes, other routes just fine. It just this route apparently I have to delete and remove things to get new items I export in to show up.

            Like I say everything else checks out just fine. First time, I have had an issue such as this in the years upon years I have been working with ref files.

            I get the same problem when I install freeware scenery objects into the route. So I don't think it's necessarily on my objects or the way I install. It seems to be on the route end, and it is a recent problem that have occured in the last week.

            It has to be something simple.
            M. Payne

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            • eric
              9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



              • Dec 2002
              • 9583
              • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
              • English, SQL
              • General

              #7
              Tsre v8.005 will list every shape you've saved into your route's shape directory. The ref entry is optional.

              That might have also been in v8.004 but I dont recall off the top of my head when I added that functionality...
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              • CSXT Q-317
                Senior Member


                • Mar 2008
                • 346
                • Ohio USA
                • ORTS

                #8
                Originally posted by eric
                Tsre v8.005 will list every shape you've saved into your route's shape directory. The ref entry is optional.

                That might have also been in v8.004 but I dont recall off the top of my head when I added that functionality...
                The curious thing that I saw outside of the problems I saw with this route was the shapes wasn't even showing up in that method. I am starting to think it's a route based problem I have but haven't found the issue as of yet.

                As for trimming down freeware scenery objects in the route. The compact option in RR has been hanging up so I can not even complete it.

                Currently testing a stand alone program I wrote to do that same function outside of RR. More out of a need to get what I do not plan to use in a release. But in this case I may end up opting to start from a recent backup that was working like it should.

                It's definitely been a head scratcher first time I have seen a issue such as this.

                M. Payne

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                • eric
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 9583
                  • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                  • English, SQL
                  • General

                  #9
                  Do any of these shapes in your route have extended/accented language characters? I've seen that cause issues.

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                  • CSXT Q-317
                    Senior Member


                    • Mar 2008
                    • 346
                    • Ohio USA
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Originally posted by eric
                    Do any of these shapes in your route have extended/accented language characters? I've seen that cause issues.
                    I'll have to double check. Would that cause them to show up again after I remove unused shapes from the route and the ref file?

                    They import just fine to other routes before I started removing shapes and trimming down the ref file. After I did that they showed up again. Initially I thought I had hit my limit of what could be in a route.
                    M. Payne

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