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  • longiron
    1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

    • Jan 2007
    • 1453
    • Just south of NYC

    #1

    What exactly to select when linking signals

    What do i select when linking signals for a junction - the switch itself or the track beyond the switch? Seems like a basic questions but don't want to start doing it wrong.
    Track to pick.jpg
    Chris
    "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."
  • landnrailroader
    4000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 4171
    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
    • ORTS

    #2
    Chris,
    Not to be too political but us SOUTHERN RAILFANS have either the Southern or the L&N and one other. Mine is the L&N and the Milwaukee Road.
    As for the question you posed, I am curious about that answer myself.
    Jerry Sullivan

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    • CSRX
      13500 Post Veteran



      • Oct 2005
      • 13646
      • Lincoln, ME
      • English
      • ORTS

      #3
      This is something I noticed isn't exactly smooth. I got it to work once, not sure how, don't remember how, and now can't seem to get it to work again. Then I always forget to ask..
      -Shawn K-
      MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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      • scottb613
        2500 Post Veteran


        • Apr 2003
        • 2848
        • Downeast Maine (soon)
        • ORTS

        #4
        Hi Chris,

        On that small test route I sent you - I don't think you have to "link" simple passing sidings. I just use two control modules - 1 on the passing siding and 1 on the main (after the split) - all located between the guarding signals. I think the links are for more sophisticated paths through more than one switch. For AI - you need to set speed posts if you want trains to slow. I am using a different signal set but the concepts should be similar. Of course - Travis would know best.

        If you upgrade TSRE - Eric added better symbology for the pyramids - makes it much easier to see direction.

        Regards,
        Scott
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        • kapitaen
          Senior Member

          • May 2010
          • 331
          • Germany
          • German + a little bit English
          • MSOR

          #5
          As an example, I am using a turnout lantern here.

          Screen Shot 01-28-25 at 10.40 AM.jpg

          First, we check the box next to Junction left ( Abzweig links ). Then click on LINK Straight ahead ( Geradeaus ). Now click on SET LINK. The marking is now made on the straight branch after the separation but still on the switches ( red circle ). If the setting was successful, the straight ahead display changes to green with the TrackNode of the junction. At the same time, the SubObj link with three numbers appears in the lower display.
          Screen Shot 01-28-25 at 10.41 AM.jpg

          Now the turning branch is made in the same sequence. Here the marking is in the turn ( red circle ). Here, too, the successful linking can be recognized by the numbers and the green color.
          Screen Shot 01-28-25 at 10.42 AM.jpg

          Jan

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          • eric
            9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



            • Dec 2002
            • 9583
            • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
            • English, SQL
            • General

            #6
            Absolutes with two or more heads need links. Intervals and Absolutes with only one head do not.

            As long as you aren't doing complex crossovers, clicking just past the turnout is usually sufficient for a two headed Absolute.

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            • longiron
              1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

              • Jan 2007
              • 1453
              • Just south of NYC

              #7
              After much experimentation on Travis' Signal Test route, I believe I've finally figured on the steps and sequence for linking signals in TSRE. Now to place a route full of signals!
              Chris
              "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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              • kennyeaton
                Senior Member


                • Oct 2008
                • 268
                • Stony Point, NC
                • MSOR

                #8
                Signals is an area that I have not attempted until today.

                On the Pokey 2.0 that I have been working on, there are a few signals that are out of place as well as an extra signal or two. The area in question here is Sprigg eastbound. First of all, I am using the copied version of the route I painted to snow terrtex in, not the route uploaded to the library.

                I removed the signal at the west end of the middle track going east and removed the first eastbound signal at the east end of the middle track leaving the signal controlling the crossover. I installed a new signal at this location replacing the one I removed from the west end of the middle track. In the first photo below, is the link numbers for the signal before removing and the second is of the link numbers after moving it up to the crossover. The numbers for the new one seem to conflict although they seem to work and did not affect any activities so far.

                If one of the signal guys here would take a look and let me know what I've done wrong or didn't do, I'd appreciate it.

                Kenny

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                • longiron
                  1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1453
                  • Just south of NYC

                  #9
                  What signal system are you using? The one that came with the route? Whenever I edit interactives, I use a multi-save approach. First, I remove the interactives. Then save the route. Make a quick backup. Then add the interactives. Then save the route. Makes for fewer issues for the TSRE to handle and maintains the order of changes.
                  Chris
                  "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                  • kennyeaton
                    Senior Member


                    • Oct 2008
                    • 268
                    • Stony Point, NC
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Originally posted by longiron
                    What signal system are you using? The one that came with the route? Whenever I edit interactives, I use a multi-save approach. First, I remove the interactives. Then save the route. Make a quick backup. Then add the interactives. Then save the route. Makes for fewer issues for the TSRE to handle and maintains the order of changes.
                    Thanks Chris.

                    That seemed to work better. Eventually I'd like to re signal the whole route with the newer N&W OR signals.

                    Kenny

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                    • eric
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                      • Dec 2002
                      • 9583
                      • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                      • English, SQL
                      • General

                      #11


                      This is a step by step example of how to link a basic two-headed signal, the concept applies pretty much for any multi-headed signal with additional checkboxes.

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                      • longiron
                        1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1453
                        • Just south of NYC

                        #12
                        Must remove all signals from the N&W route BEFORE installing new ones. Mixing signal system is the fastest way to route corruption.
                        Chris
                        "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                        • longiron
                          1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1453
                          • Just south of NYC

                          #13
                          To really effective install any signal system, you need to memorize the rules governing the signal system you are attempting to install. This way you know how to configure the heads for the location and situation.
                          chrisvw

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                          Chris
                          "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                          • mnowosad
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                            • May 2010
                            • 126

                            #14
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