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  • charland
    3000 Post Veteran


    • Dec 2006
    • 3107
    • Brockville, ON, CA
    • General

    #1

    Track Grades

    After 11 years with no problems I'm working on another version of the DAR that started as the original DAR route. Just about finished and suddenly MSTS RE throws a fit that comes down to not liking a few 500m pieces of track around Windsor... track that has worked fine in the DAR, DARv2, and DARv3 for years.

    So I've been deleting it and replacing it with five pieces of 100m track. Not a big deal but this morning I find TSRE v8.04 doesn't want to let me place the equivalent of a 0.45 grade that I need to match what I'm replacing. I replaced a 0.15 grade by tapping 8 once that got me to 2.5, then a single 2 tap to go down to 1.5ish which matched the 0.15 grade but I can't get to 0.45, only 2.5, 4.999, and 7.5. I have a work around where I copy the grade before deleting the track but changing the grade doesn't work anything like the "book" claims.

    Am I missing something?

    Paul :-)
  • pwillard
    3000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 3070
    • Cumming Ga
    • ORTS

    #2
    Am I missing something? YES, we are still missing a route "TRACK" editor as nice as the one used in TRAINZ.
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    • eric
      9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



      • Dec 2002
      • 9583
      • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
      • English, SQL
      • General

      #3
      Keep in mind that TSRE has several options for doing grades. You might have the wrong variation selected which is why your numbers aren't working as expected.

      If you want to match MSTS, use Angle*:

      ​

      You'll probably have to do some rounding corrections. For whatever reason, the floating point math in 8 bits vs. 64 bits winds up with fragments that don't round cleanly.

      I personally have moved over to Permille because that is easy to convert to track chart measurements. It's the same as Percent but with the decimal point moved one position to the right i.e. 0.265 % = 2.65 permille.

      The fourth option (1 in X meters) is one I've never had a reason to try, but presumably is what is used somewhere that Piotr was trying to accommodate in Europe...

      Also, you can change the step value to get something more precise and it will persist thru your session.
      Last edited by eric; 07-18-2024, 14:43.
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      • charland
        3000 Post Veteran


        • Dec 2006
        • 3107
        • Brockville, ON, CA
        • General

        #4
        That's what I've been using Eric, permille. I was able to set the grades by copying the grade before I deleted the track sections and then pasting it when I was laying the new track piece. Worked out fine.

        Paul :-)

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        • eric
          9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



          • Dec 2002
          • 9583
          • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
          • English, SQL
          • General

          #5
          I also tend to key in my grades in the properties pane, vs. using the arrows... one of these days I'll figure out a hotkey to jump to that box.
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