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  • landnrailroader
    4000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 4171
    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
    • ORTS

    #1

    Fix This?

    After placing a few track pieces, I come up against this. The only way I have found to fix it, is to re lay the curve or whatever the trackage is so that there is not a join point at this location. When I place the new piece, which is a Mtrack 1 degree 45 minute piece of 1 degree swing, of which 3 will be reqiuired to finish the curve on a 2% grade ascending to the right, the new piece locks in nicely about .06 meters below the previous piece. I can, with translate, move the new piece to the correct spot but when I do, I do not get a join or database entry and the new blue pole with number is the same amount higher than the previous blue pole & number. Just for information, I haven't put my preferred track textures in the route yet.

    Jerry tsre_error09.jpg
  • eric
    9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



    • Dec 2002
    • 9583
    • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
    • English, SQL
    • General

    #2
    I was told that the translate function was not supposed to be used on tracks.

    Just about every piece of track that I placed using Translate wound up with a broken Vector of some sort, either the stair step that you were looking at or a zag at the next joint point. There's something going on with the Q rotation calculations that just doesn't add up.

    One thing that has sometimes worked for me in the past is to first move the piece that's a little bit off while the track database entry is still active, remove it from the track database, reset it to the track database, remove it again, and then finally place it on the third attempt.

    I wasn't able to ever confirm this with Goku, but I think the placement is being cached somehow in memory and it doesn't want to forget it's previous location.


    Last edited by eric; 08-28-2023, 08:25.
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    • landnrailroader
      4000 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 4171
      • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
      • ORTS

      #3
      Agreed, translate doesn't work with track. I'll try your method next time. As I said, so far, I just delete the track for 100 meters or so and then relay with lengths of pieces, such that the joint is not at the troubled location.

      Jerry

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      • eric
        9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



        • Dec 2002
        • 9583
        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
        • English, SQL
        • General

        #4
        As you find those types of glitches... drop a marker or otherwise capture the location. As I do testing and anything that modifies the TDB, I'll go back and validate the TDB lines are still good and not broken again. Usually they're good but some percentage of the time they'll break again.

        I use my REJumper app (listed in the file library) to track those locations as it can read and manipulate the navigator window in TSRE. You could also drop a marker or use whatever process you're comfortable with e.g. tracking the mile marker.
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        • landnrailroader
          4000 Post Veteran



          • Nov 1999
          • 4171
          • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
          • ORTS

          #5
          iI "found" another glitch just now. For whatever reason all the track database lines disappeared. Now in the view tools, this is not turned off and the database file exists. I am going to search the comments to see if anyone else has experienced this. It is if I had turned off viewing the database lines, but I have not?

          Well, an hour later I went back into the route and I had database lines up to a blue pole. Track looked perfectly fine beyond, but no yellow lines, so I have traced the route piece by piece, got rid of the blue pole first, and now it is going in fine. Seward, AK is near water level, with the track elevation shown on the track charts as about 35 feet. Shortly out of the yard area the grade goes to 2.1 percent but it is a compensated (for curves) grade so I have to carefully adjust the gradient to hit the elevation points as close as possible and thus in train simulator the maximum grade is about 1.8 percent.

          Jerry
          Last edited by landnrailroader; 08-28-2023, 15:53.

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