Adjusting terraini to track or road

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  • landnrailroader
    4000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 4171
    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
    • ORTS

    #1

    Adjusting terraini to track or road

    Next Idiot Question.

    Okay, I select a 100M track piece and place new. Then while it is selected but not entered into the database,
    I use translate and yet "y" to 3 meters, approx right as track should be a few feet above flat terrain for drainage.
    Track does rise to new height. Now, I adjust the cut, fill, and width values, keeping default radius, cut and fill
    but chaning width to "1". Hit "F" and all the terraini in view rises 3 meters.

    Tried several combinations and the "Z" key does not add the piece to the database before above action and after
    the above action it just deletes the whole piece. Only way I could get it to add to the database was to add another
    track piece. Looks like I better keep MSTS/RE on the ancient XP machine just to shape cut & fill?

    Jerry Sullivan
    If FSSARNO thinks 80 is old, try 84----
  • peacockg
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 56

    #2
    This is not the way I have done this in the past but I followed your instructions. Did not change the cut and fill.
    Place track. Transform y 3metres. Press F. Press Z
    I have track raised to the new height on an embankment and with yellow tdb lines

    I can suggest 2 alternatives.
    1 Change the height by adding 3 to the y value in the position.
    or
    2 Change the track height by pressing 9 on the keyboard. For me this increases the height by 0.25m each time. The step can be reduced by doing CTRL9

    Garry

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    • landnrailroader
      4000 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 4171
      • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
      • ORTS

      #3
      I was doing this on a 1 tile route that I created for testing. Even with minimum values in the width, etc. the fill that is created is way too wide. I have noticed comments about this from as far back as 2019, so I guess it is either live with it, or use MSTS/RE to create the fills and cuts. After reading your comment I get the same issue but I notice that the z key has no effect on the first piece of t rack laid but after I lay another piece, either attached or not, the z key will turn on or off the database insertion of whichever is selected. If anyone with C++ or Visual C++ skills ever gets into the program, it would be better if we could do this like in MSTS. Just key in the width and know that the width is "so much" in either meters or feet, and then select cut or fill in degrees. Having done a number of routes, several in the library, I found that for single track, a width of 12 (which I assume is meters) is a good width, and 60 is good for embankments, with 80 good for cuts. 45/45 would be more correct but the values that I use create a better visual "look", I believe.

      With the experience of testing thousands of miles of railroad track on several railroads, I find that the right of way width is typically between 50 & 100 feet, but a single track, typically uses about 25-30' of the width. For each additional track, add about 2/3 of the width for one track for each.

      Jerry

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      • landnrailroader
        4000 Post Veteran



        • Nov 1999
        • 4171
        • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
        • ORTS

        #4
        I still have not been able to create a cut or fill that is not way---- too wide, even when I reduce the width value. So like another,
        I'll probably do my terrain editing on the remaining MSTS that I have on a -XP machine. I do not have that antique connected to
        the internet so I use a flash drive, stick, or whatever you prefer to call it, to move files from one machine to the other. On two or
        three routes that I have not started track yet, I'll use TSRE5 to do track and roads becausee the ability to set track to a certain % and
        lay several pieces beats having to adjust each piece even though I have got pretty adept at doing it. My method is to lay 1/4 mile
        or so of track adjusted to the digitized data I have in the marker file, so my thinking is that I would turn off the automatic database
        function and then when I am satisfied with my section, use the "z" key to insert each piece.

        J. H. Sullivan

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