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  • bprice
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 217

    #1

    Getting started

    I just got a new computer that is able to run TSRE. I have the brief guide but it is short on specifics. I have reviewed some of the forums but not everything yet.

    My question is, is there a source for a more detailed guide for how to use the guide?

    I know there is a learning curve, but I am needing some of the basics.

    Thanks

    Basil
  • amtrak115
    Senior Member

    • Oct 2005
    • 289
    • Parker, TX
    • General

    #2
    I'm in the process of going through Michael Vone's tutorial on Route building except using TSRE instead of MSTS RE. I can send to you my updated tutorial in the next day or so...

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    • bprice
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 217

      #3
      Thanks

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      • slipperman
        3500 Post Veteran



        • May 2010
        • 3787
        • Worksop, UK
        • MSOR

        #4
        Hi amtrak115,
        I'm sure that'd be interesting and useful to many of us - will you be uploading it to this site?

        Cheers,
        Ged

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        • gremlin1812
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 521

          #5
          This might be helpful.
          tsre_manual.zip

          Regards
          Barrie

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          • geepster775
            2500 Post Veteran


            • Sep 2006
            • 2846
            • .
            • General

            #6
            My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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            • bprice
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 217

              #7
              Thanks. That was quite helpful.

              Basil

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              • frliss
                1000 Post Veteran



                • Mar 2011
                • 1078
                • MP44.2 Worcester, MA
                • General

                #8
                Just go to YouTube and search for TSRE5. there is a wealth of information there.

                Fred

                Flashing Rear End Device

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                • bprice
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 217

                  #9
                  The information has been helpful.

                  There are a couple of things I haven't found yet.
                  After you have placed an object, how do you de-select it. I have moved the mouse and had the object I just place go flying.

                  Also. I know you can move forward and back as well as right an left to move around the route. How do you go up without having to repoint the camera with the mouse and move forward? The MSTS you could hold CRTL and move ahead and the camera would elevate.

                  Thanks
                  Basil

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                  • Vince
                    6500 Post Veteran

                    • Nov 1999
                    • 6961
                    • Mohave

                    #10
                    Hi Basil,

                    After placing an object make sure you are in SELECT mode then you can click on ground or sky to de-select.

                    Moving forward or backwards (Up or Down Arrow) press Space.

                    I have also customized flying speeds and yes, I know it's not intuitive but it makes for more precise editing.

                    cameraSpeedMin = 15
                    cameraSpeedStd = 0.10
                    cameraSpeedMax = 2

                    Enjoy!
                    ............Vince ..............
                    ...... Author NECv4 .......
                    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                    • amtrak115
                      Senior Member

                      • Oct 2005
                      • 289
                      • Parker, TX
                      • General

                      #11
                      Vince,

                      I know you've been using TSRE, and as an exercise in learning it's capabilities, I've been reworking Michael Vone's book related to TSRE. I've run into a couple of issues....

                      one, I know Ctrl-Q turns automatic TDB update on, however is there any visual clue you are in that mode?
                      two, I was working through an exercise with dynamic track from MV's book. Basically creating a -0.5 angle with an 80m radius with a slope of -3 degrees. I get through all the track girations...then I Press Z then try to elevate the terrain to the track with F...it just spins it's wheels at that point. Now I just crossed over the edge of a tile if that makes a difference but the dynamic track piece is all within one tile. Any clues to what might be happening?

                      thanks for any info..

                      later

                      Barry

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                      • Vince
                        6500 Post Veteran

                        • Nov 1999
                        • 6961
                        • Mohave

                        #12
                        Hi Barry,

                        There is no visual indication for Auto-add to TDB. It has been suggested to GOKU to provide one but it's easy enough to see if it's on of off necause as soon as you deselect a track section the Yellow Database line will or will not appear depending if the Auto-add is on or off.

                        I don't know what you mean by "it just spins it's wheels at that point."

                        I've never had terrain fail to level to track using the 'F' key. Check your embankment settings in the TSRE (F2) terrain panel.
                        Does terrain leveling (F) work with regular track sections?

                        Be advised that the default Dynamic Track curve is to the Right, a positive curve. MSTS Dynamic Track default curve was only to the Left, a negative number curve. TSRE swings both ways something MSTS was never able to do.
                        I still avoid DT if possible,

                        regards,
                        ............Vince ..............
                        ...... Author NECv4 .......
                        .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                        ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                        On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                        "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                        the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                        I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                        • mmax45581
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2018
                          • 117
                          • Musterhausen

                          #13
                          Sometimes F doesn't work with dynamic track. I don't know why, instead the editor just crashed. As a workaround, I placed a short section of road with "stick to target" checked and just pressed F for that, which will probably get the same result. If not, you might have to repeat the process in different locations.
                          Travel where imagination takes you. – Æ

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                          • amtrak115
                            Senior Member

                            • Oct 2005
                            • 289
                            • Parker, TX
                            • General

                            #14
                            "as you deselect a track section the Yellow Database line will or will not appear"

                            Well Duh!!!! of course I new that....LOL

                            "it just spins it's wheels at that point."

                            It was crashing...I just didn't wait long enough...saw it happen later...looked at TSRE Log.txt, but no reference to anything I was trying to do...it just stopped.

                            "avoid DT if possible"

                            seen this several places now....probably will heed that advise..and not use DT if at all possible.

                            thanks for the advice.

                            BTW. I was a big fan of NEC4. use to take train to Philly from DC about every 4/6 weeks when I was working in DC for Gov't. I took the same route on your PRR East V2. and it's much better. your routes, and several others sparked my interest in learning more about OR and TSRE. One day I'll figure out why you have so much stuff below ground...in your routes.....LOL...I've seen some of the conversations you've had with GOKU. I think his editor is a great and a game changer with respect to getting routes into OR.

                            later

                            Barry

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                            • amtrak115
                              Senior Member

                              • Oct 2005
                              • 289
                              • Parker, TX
                              • General

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mmax45581
                              Sometimes F doesn't work with dynamic track.
                              I thought I saw it work once...but not since...I'll try your trick or avoid DT.

                              thanks

                              Barry

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