TSRE Activity Editor Question #2

[Winterhawk76]

So. I just installed OR v:1.3.1 on the pc & it is operating properly. When I tried to launch CP4 & received an error message that OR found a track section which is not present in tsection.dat & would not open. Message said that the problem is most likely that I don't have the correct version of XTracks or YTracks. Checked & the current version of XTracks is v:3.20, build 38. Unless it is buried inside another app, I have never had YTracks & do not have any version of such on the pc.

I tried launching other routes located inside the same mini route as CP4 all other routes open & function normally. So. I'm wondering if the problem here might be an issue between XTracks & CP4 since, until receiving the error msg about XTracks today, the error message I have consistently received & caused the CTD's leading to my original post have dealt w/a missing track node. A copy of the most recent OR log is attached. Hawk

[ebnertra000]

I'd try a newer tsection file. I think we're up to build 52 now?

[geepster775]

As for my curiosity about the path, didn't know if you made it yourself or if it was downloadable from somewhere.

If it was made in the MS AE, what do you see when you open it in TrackViewer during the route's 'broken' state? Trackviewer will read the TDB and then open the path. Does it open cleanly or does it offer to make repairs?

[Winterhawk76]

No problem. As for the path designation, I have used a number of different naming conventions over the years & finally settled on the one you mentioned b/c it seems to fit my needs best. If there are multiple railroads that use the path, it designates the road that I want to use. It designates the direction (WB/EB) & whether the player is a freight or passenger consist. To me, that defines whether the player's departure/termination point is a passenger station or freight yard. And finally, if there happen to be multiple possible origination/termination points that could also fit the PR/ER criteria on a specific route, it identifies which specific point (station/yard/whatever) that I have designated for that particular path. It may seem overly complicated to some, but it works for me.


So. As for the issue of CP4 & the inability to use either RE or AE, the route is currently broken as it will not open as described in my previous note. Just tried it again w/same result. So I opened OR/Tools/Track Viewer. Of the available options, I chose Path-Editor Tab. Screen Shot of the menu that popped up is attached. As you can see, only the "supporting MSTS paths only" is highlighted but when I click on it, nothing happens. No "Fix It" option available here. Checked all 9 options under the Track Items tab. Nothing pops up when I click on any. Looked under all of the other tabs, but do not see anything that might show where there might be a problem w/the path. If I missed it, pls let me know & I will recheck.

Thx again for your help! I will be out for next 2 - 3 hrs. Hawk

[GokuMK]

So. I just installed OR v:1.3.1 on the pc & it is operating properly. When I tried to launch CP4 & received an error message that OR found a track section which is not present in tsection.dat & would not open. Message said that the problem is most likely that I don't have the correct version of XTracks or YTracks. Checked & the current version of XTracks is v:3.20, build 38. Unless it is buried inside another app, I have never had YTracks & do not have any version of such on the pc.

Look into the tsection.dat file located in route directory and check if it is not empty. This error occurs always after editing route which is not synced with global tsection.dat. For me it would be a surprise if it is a different cause.

[Winterhawk76]

Tsection.dat file has 2519 lines of data. Screen shot attached. H

[geepster775]

Is the Cajon 4 route on your system fully patched to 4.2?

Mine is 4.2 and the tsection is about 13,376 lines and 553 kb in size

[R. Steele]

Is the Cajon 4 route on your system fully patched to 4.2?

Mine is 4.2 and the tsection is about 13,376 lines and 553 kb in size

Identical to the tsection I also have for Cajon4....I've been reading the thread and wondering if you got a complete installation, perhaps scrapping the whole thing...download a fresh zip, making sure to get any patches or updates and try again.

[Winterhawk76]

Not sure if I have a complete install or not, but will d/l one more time. Have d/l this route 4-5 times in the last week, including the 4.2 patch, so I would think that it would be complete. Will give it another shot tonite & see if the tsection data matches what you 2 guys show. So, if the tsection file is actually missing some data, is that possibly the answer to the question as to why I am getting all of the missing file errors in both RE & AE? I have used TSRE5 on a number of other routes over the past few months w/no issues whatsoever, but only got into the AE part in the last week or so. That's when the trouble began. I have concentrated this effort specifically on the Cajon4 route & have not tried making add'l changes in RE or attempting to use AE on other routes until this problem can be identified or resolved. But from what I'm getting out of all of this, it seems that the problem may be w/the route itself rather than any functions of TSRE5. Pls advise if my thinking is off base. Thx again...H

[Winterhawk76]

So I just did a re-install of the complete CP4 route including CP4ie-1,2, & 3, w/3 being the 4.2 update. The new tsection file contains 12978 lines & is 524 KB in size. Significantly different that the previous install. Launched the route in OR & it loaded & functioned properly. So I then go into RE & delete a single object, not remotely associated w/the TDB, I receive the same error message that OR found a track section which is not present in tsection.dat & would not open, & suggesting that the problem might be XTracks or YTracks. As mentioned previously, the version of XTracks I have is version 3.20 which I believe is the current version, but I do not have YTracks installed unless it is included as another component of another install I am not aware of. So as it now stands, the route appears to launch & function properly w/the new install of the 3 sections of CP4, but once I make any change in RE, the sim ID's specific track sections that are missing, & prevents the app from launching a second time after the crash. Only option then is to delete the previous, corrupted copy of the route in the mini route & install a copy.

[geepster775]

attached is the zip file of my tsection. Compare it to the one in your route folder (not the global folder)

Something else bothered me about that screen grab of the track viewer. If you loaded the route right, one would see the schematic map of it in the background.

When you open the trackviewer, you need to click

File
Select install Folder

then

File
Select Route

then

Path Editor
Load Path
Select Path

[derekmorton]

Gents,

You should always refer to tsection by its build number, its located in the second line of the file.
Route builders should include the build number in their documentation.

[derekmorton]

You are looking at the route tsection which is supplied with the route and should not be touched.
Others are quoting the size of the global tsection, which is much larger.

Tsection.dat file has 2519 lines of data. Screen shot attached. H

[geepster775]

No, we were comparing the routes file, not the global one.

[Winterhawk76]

So the latest d/l of the 3 files for CP4 resolved most of the issues I was having w/the missing tsection files & the RE part of TSRE5. The new tsection file contains 13,375 lines, 1 less than the 13,376 mentioned above, but when I opened the route in RE & made a single modification, OR opened w/o problem. I made some further changes in RE & OR continues to function normally, so it appears that the issue here was related to an incomplete d/l of the route that resulted in missing files in the tsection, &, thankfully, not an issue w/TSRE5. So thanks to all for your help in resolving that issue.