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  • Vince
    6500 Post Veteran

    • Nov 1999
    • 6961
    • Mohave

    #1

    New Pre-Release Beta of TSRE5_v0.6963

    From the post:
    New experimental and not tested features:

    - elevation info for dynamic tracks and rulers
    - set position Y value for group of objects
    - edit position of signal shape in properties window
    - more actions available from the context menu
    - pick elevation for placement -> easy placement of elevated track using short segments
    - new option "useTdbEmptyItems = false" may help editing broken routes?
    And much more.

    Started using the 696 version & so far . . .
    Found a neat one: In the NAVI window a list . . .Markers, Stations & Sidings These work in conjunction with the 'JUMP' button. Neat!
    Dyn Track works just fine . . . thanks for listening on that one Goku.
    Global Y Axis setting . . . Big help here.

    useTdbEmptyItems = false goes in settings.txt?

    regards,
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
  • Pecho Lata
    Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 40
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    • General

    #2
    Originally posted by Vince
    useTdbEmptyItems = false goes in settings.txt?
    I would say yes. I can not think of another place to put it

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    • cnwfan
      1000 Post Veteran

      • Oct 2005
      • 1250

      #3
      Originally posted by Vince
      In the NAVI window a list . . .Markers, Stations & Sidings These work in conjunction with the 'JUMP' button. Neat!
      This has been a feature in conjunction with your mrk file has been since the 2016 versions I believe
      Todd
      Iowa Chicago and Eastern Mason City Sub

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      • Vince
        6500 Post Veteran

        • Nov 1999
        • 6961
        • Mohave

        #4
        If it is/was I never noticed it.

        regards,
        ............Vince ..............
        ...... Author NECv4 .......
        .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
        ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

        On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
        "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
        the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
        I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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        • ebnertra000
          1500 Post Veteran


          • Jun 2013
          • 1778
          • Minnesota

          #5
          Yeah, he's right. I've been using it for ages. Makes traveling in a large route a snap. If you have markers visible in the editor, station or platform markers (whichever is chosen at the time in the Navi Window menu) will have markers (the purple poles) on them as well. But they will probably be a couple hundred yards from the actual iteractive object they represent

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          • NW 2156
            2000 Post Veteran

            • Aug 2007
            • 2290
            • Carolina's

            #6
            Dang, I run 32 bit OS and am still awaiting a new release of TSRE5.

            Robert

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            • csantucci
              Senior Member
              • Nov 1999
              • 856
              • Torino, Italy.

              #7
              Very nice that Goku has provided us again with a new version. May I know where he wrote his post?
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              • cnwfan
                1000 Post Veteran

                • Oct 2005
                • 1250

                #8
                Originally posted by csantucci
                Very nice that Goku has provided us again with a new version. May I know where he wrote his post?
                Under my TSRE API issue post, I really wish he made his own post rather than post under that- making it hard to find the download. Mods would you please pull that post and post as a new thread so people can find this new version?
                Todd
                Iowa Chicago and Eastern Mason City Sub

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                • csantucci
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 1999
                  • 856
                  • Torino, Italy.

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cnwfan
                  Under my TSRE API issue post, I really wish he made his own post rather than post under that- making it hard to find the download. Mods would you please pull that post and post as a new thread so people can find this new version?
                  Thank you!
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                  • Vince
                    6500 Post Veteran

                    • Nov 1999
                    • 6961
                    • Mohave

                    #10
                    Hello GokuMk.

                    Been using the new v0.6963 elease a week now. No issues. Global Y Axis set a great help setting in new signals.

                    Regarding the new ability to select and delete a TDB Item: Works well for getting rid of TDB items that have no corresponding shape reference in the World files.
                    I would like to see this feature expanded so a Track EndNode also display an icon similar to the Black Cube Icon display for TDB Items. It should also be selectable as the black cube icon. This would go a long way towards removing rogue blue & red poles from isolated track sections with no shape displayed.

                    A huge addition would be a routine to scan the TDB for instances of a single track section and present them in a list where I could visually scan and select for delete these 'rogue' items. I ask they be shown as a list as the are legitimate uses in a route for such items as used in the real world to display railroad equipment suck as the steam engine at Horseshoe Curve and rolling stock at other locations in the route.
                    .
                    Hope you enjoyed your holiday.
                    .
                    regards,
                    Last edited by Vince; 10-27-2018, 13:26.
                    ............Vince ..............
                    ...... Author NECv4 .......
                    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                    • Vince
                      6500 Post Veteran

                      • Nov 1999
                      • 6961
                      • Mohave

                      #11
                      This would have been and edit of my post but . . .

                      Regarding the ability of the new TSRE to select and delete a TrackDB Item: A display ( and possibly a way to edit ) the properties of the selected TrackDB Item would be much appreciated.

                      The warning you display with selecting 'Delete' of a TrackDB Item is well taken. Deleting without knowing exactly what I'm removing always makes me a bit nervous.
                      And a way to alter that data may, in the future be a creative way to repair sick-but-not-dead routes.
                      .
                      regards,
                      Last edited by Vince; 10-27-2018, 18:09.
                      ............Vince ..............
                      ...... Author NECv4 .......
                      .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                      ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                      On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                      "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                      the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                      I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                      • Vince
                        6500 Post Veteran

                        • Nov 1999
                        • 6961
                        • Mohave

                        #12
                        Hello Goku,

                        What is really needed is a database rebuilder . . . one that really works.
                        It should remove the TDB, TIT, RDB & RIT files and generate a completely new set based on ONLY World file data.

                        I feel this would quickly eliminate the problems many routes have keeping them from distribution.

                        I know you are up to the challenge of creating a database rebuilder addition to TSRE to get this very important feature going.
                        It will go a long way to solving many problems that todays route builder have.

                        I know you're loaded with work but sure hope you can find time.
                        Any assistance I can help with please ask.

                        Goku, using your experimental version I have been able to correct many database problems in the PRR-East route (as you will remember this route has badly flawed database files with many conflicts).,

                        I see mainly signal and speedpost TrackItemTable (tit) entries mixed up. And with the EmptyTDB Items is growing fast I worry as you do about just how many empty items will be tolerated.
                        So far . . . it seems okay. But a working database rebuilder would do wonders for many routes suffering the Database Blues.

                        Sincerely,
                        Last edited by Vince; 10-31-2018, 13:56.
                        ............Vince ..............
                        ...... Author NECv4 .......
                        .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                        ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                        On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                        "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                        the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                        I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                        • landnrailroader
                          4000 Post Veteran



                          • Nov 1999
                          • 4171
                          • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
                          • ORTS

                          #13
                          I'll second that Vince, and if the suggested rebuilder gives us a meaningful error message if it
                          encounters something it cannot deal with, that would be nice too.

                          Jerry

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                          • Vince
                            6500 Post Veteran

                            • Nov 1999
                            • 6961
                            • Mohave

                            #14
                            Hi Jerry,

                            Been thinking this through while doing some major tdb editing the past several weeks. I remembered that a MSTS TDB rebuild breaks all signal linking . . . that's not something I'd want especially a large route.

                            Perhaps a better way would be a method to repair the tdb in small increments rather than a complete rebuild?
                            I've been doing some tdb editing the last few weeks attempting with some success to straighten out the mess of the PRR-East database files.
                            If there was a way to display and edit ANY datablock in any of the database files it would be a big help.

                            AS example a signal is displayed as
                            1.) A re pyramid (the TDB indicator)
                            2.) A Black cube (the Track Item Table indicator) and
                            3.) the signal shape itself. All three must be present for a signal to operate.

                            The signal links data, if any, are contained in the TDB & TIT file datablocks for that signal.
                            All three data must be 'In Sync'.
                            A way to display (and edit) this data would go a long way to solving database problems that have destroyed many routes. I'm doing it manually now but Goku has come through with the a way of selecting and deleting the Item Table (the Black Cube)
                            I'd like to see the data for the selected Black Cube displayed as editable data on the TSRE screen.

                            In the meantime I'm going through the route and manually eliminating datbase errors as I go.
                            I have corrected over 83 so far, but it's a frustrating job because as soon as I correct an error by eliminating a signal of a speed post (the most common error) and when replaced, a different error on a different tile shows up. On and on, and on.
                            Back to work.

                            regards,
                            ............Vince ..............
                            ...... Author NECv4 .......
                            .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                            ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                            On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                            "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                            the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                            I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                            • NW 2156
                              2000 Post Veteran

                              • Aug 2007
                              • 2290
                              • Carolina's

                              #15
                              Vince, Hence why I've questioned building such massive routes to begin with? I can't sit for any length of time at the computer to run more than an hour. My bum starts to get sore and I have to get up and take a whiz break and replenish my beverage.

                              Robert

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