Using TRSE with MSTS

[rosssweet]

I find TRSE for route editing very easy to use placing scenery, compared with the MSTS RE
Trying to change the look of track in sidings has caused me problems.

In a small route that uses XTracks only.
The route ran through the MSTS RE, Advanced, Rebuild Track database,
No problems, All tiles visited.

I then attempted to change track appearance in TRSE by doing this.

Copying and renaming A1t100mStrt.s and .sd to A1t100mXstrt.s and .sd

Then making A1t100mXstrt.s look at a new AcleanTrack2 I named AcleanTrack2x
That I made with a a rusty track appearance texture.

In TRSE, I SELECT the section of track to change.
EDIT, A1t100mStrt.s to A1t100mXstrt.s
Track changed and looks right. SAVE.

NOW if I run the route through the MSTS RE, Rebuild Track database, it FAILS.
Also, when I exit MSTS route I get an ERROR.

Does this mean if I alter the track database in TRSE I can no longer use the MSTS RE ?

[Vince]

Nice look! But . . . The tracksection is referenced in the World and Track Database files.

n TRSE, I SELECT the section of track to change.
EDIT, A1t100mStrt.s to A1t100mXstrt.s
Track changed and looks right. SAVE.

Which alters the TDB . . .

I see problems here.

regards,

[rosssweet]

Hi Vince.
Then you are saying that TRSE is saving to the World files, which is correct.
However not to the Track Database files....
Should it be doing this ? Or is there a way of doing this.
Thanks Ross

[ebnertra000]

Ross,

If you're changing the shape referenced by the world file for a specific track piece, sort of like what would be done when converting a route to use USTracks shapes (which could be done without moving tracks about),then in theory it shouldn't bother the TDB.

If, on the other hand, you remove the track piece outright (or just removes it from the TDB temporarily) and place a new style of track there, then problems will arise.

When you replaced the track shape, did the thin grey line or the yellow line over any track pieces disappear? If so, are there interactives in this route yet? If both are yes, I hope you've got a backup in reserve somewhere

[rosssweet]

Hi ebnertra000

This route is using XTracks only.
I am not changing to a different style shape file like USTracks.

The XTrack shape is being replaced in TRSE with the same Xtrack file, renamed to look at a different .ace file.
The WORLD file changes to the new changes.

When I edit the track in TRSE it does NOT break the yellow line. so SAVE.
You can see the actual track color has changed and you would think it has worked.

In the route the changes are made.
There is no signaling done on this route yet.

However MSTS does not like the change.
Cheers Ross

[rosssweet]

Editing the track piece, in TRSE up in the left hand corner top box.

[GokuMK]

I think that you can't rebuild TDB when you change track shape to another shape.
During TDB rebuild, MSRE looks for new trackshape ID by filename. And because you changed the name to custom name, there is no trackshape in tsection.dat with this name and MSRE fails to rebuild TDB.

Why you want do do TDB rebuild? Just don't use it.

[rosssweet]

I think that you can't rebuild TDB when you change track shape to another shape.
During TDB rebuild, MSRE looks for new trackshape ID by filename. And because you changed the name to custom name, there is no trackshape in tsection.dat with this name and MSRE fails to rebuild TDB.

Why you want do do TDB rebuild? Just don't use it.

Thank you Goku, for your work and guidance.

I really enjoy working with MSTS and only want to make changes that MSTS accepts.
I'm at the stage to see, if I can use your editor for MSTS and also use the MSRE.

I will look at adding these custom shapes to the tsection.dat and see where that takes me.
I'm not sure if this will be tricky or not.
Cheers Ross

[GokuMK]

Just add custom shapes after you don't need track database rebuilds.