New problem, TSRE stopped opening Open Rails tonight but still opens MSTS just fine.

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  • lvlender
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    • Feb 2024
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    #1

    New problem, TSRE stopped opening Open Rails tonight but still opens MSTS just fine.

    I have been using the TSRE consist editor without problems since I installed it. I have been using it to repair ‘broken’ consist files. Used it today to correct about 10 ‘broken’ consist files in Open Rails. I closed editor program to get some dinner and upon restarting the consist editor it hangs on the start screen and the screen gets greyed out. I get a message stating the consist editor is not responding.

    As a test I used the consist editor to open the MSTS folder (C:/MSTS) and it opens up and displays the consists and rolling stock/locomotive files just fine. It just won’t open the Open Rails folder (D:/TrainSimulations). How do I troubleshoot the consist editor?​
  • derekmorton
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    • Nov 1999
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    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
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    #2
    There is a copy of TSRE in memory that won't respond.
    If you know how to use Task Manager to end task, get rid of it.
    If you don't, reboot the machine.

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    • lvlender
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      • Feb 2024
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      #3
      I thought about what I was doing on the computer just before TSRE started going wonky. Just prior to the problems with TSRE, I had placed 12 rolling stock files into trainset. I erased the 12 files and, viola', TSRE opened up. I put back the files and TSRE would, again, not open. I re-erased the 12 files and TSRE is working. Not a definitive answer but, ...
      Last edited by lvlender; 04-27-2024, 12:29.

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      • oper190
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        • May 2010
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        #4
        Could you tell us what Trainsets you were adding, might help to figure out the problem. Sounds like they might be missing needed files of some sort.
        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
        Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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        • eric
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          • Dec 2002
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          #5
          Zip those 12 up and upload them here if it's not in the library.

          I'll run it thru the debugger to see where it barfs. The TSRE log might have an entry for the last one attempted..
          If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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          • lvlender
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            • Feb 2024
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            #6
            Originally posted by eric
            Zip those 12 up and upload them here if it's not in the library.

            I'll run it thru the debugger to see where it barfs. The TSRE log might have an entry for the last one attempted..
            The files came from Trainsim.com. All the files were created by Andrey Tucker-Wells. Placing the files in the trainset folder of Open Rails seemed to cause issue with TSRE opening ORTS consists. During my problems opening ORTS I had no problem getting TSRE to open MSTS consists.
            After having problems with TSRE I removed all the files from Open Rails and deleted them off my computer. Tonight, I gathered up the File ID’s as best as I could remember. I have had no further issues with TSRE since I first reported the glitch. I am not even saying I know for sure that these files caused issues with TSRE. I see these files have been downloaded over 500 times each. I guess they work, just not for me.
            File ID 81893
            File ID 84427
            File ID 84428
            File ID 84437
            File ID 85079

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            • eric
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              • Dec 2002
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              #7
              Odd.. I loaded them with the latest version 8.003 and had no problems.

              Try using what was posted to the file library tonight (not the testing version) and let me know if it has the same issues.

              Upload the TSRE Logfile as well if you do have difficulties again.
              If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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              • lvlender
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                #8
                Originally posted by eric
                Odd.. I loaded them with the latest version 8.003 and had no problems.

                Try using what was posted to the file library tonight (not the testing version) and let me know if it has the same issues.

                Upload the TSRE Logfile as well if you do have difficulties again.
                Hi Eric,
                I don't see ver. 8.003 The most current version on the TSRE5 website ( http://koniec.org/tsre5/data/ ) is 7.012
                That release is dated 12/Jan/2022

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                • eric
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                  #9
                  That's possibly your problem.

                  Look in OUR file library. Link is at the top of the page.
                  If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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                  • lvlender
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                    • Feb 2024
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by eric
                    That's possibly your problem.

                    Look in OUR file library. Link is at the top of the page.
                    ...got it 😁

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                    • ITACHI UCHIHA
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                      • Apr 2023
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                      #11
                      one day i was using tsre5 consist editor and i started replacing locomotives but tsre5 was not saving them and then i deleted the programme and reinstalled it and now tsre5 consist editor is not starting at all

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                      • eric
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                        #12
                        Which version? Can you upload the log file? Chances are that it's logging detail prior to the crash which may help.
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                        • lvlender
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                          #13
                          Just a follow up to the original post that started this thread.

                          Mine is a relatively fast gaming desktop computer. I mention this because computing power and processing time for ORTS, MSTS, TRSE5 is not an issue. I am using TRSE5 Ver. 06958.

                          Per TRSE5's display, the total files it loads from my Trainset folder is 4390 and total from the Consists folder 492. When starting TRSE5, the data screen can sit empty for upwards of 25 seconds before it finishes reading and then displaying the files. During that time if I re-click the 'load' bar at the bottom of the screen, I will get a "program is not responding" message from Microsoft Explorer. What I have discovered and wish to share, is that TRSE5 is apparently digesting A LOT of data and can take upwards of 30 seconds or so to display (my machine). Others machines will take more or less time.

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                          • slipperman
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                            • May 2010
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                            • Worksop, UK
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                            #14
                            Hi,
                            Originally posted by lvlender
                            Mine is a relatively fast gaming desktop computer. I mention this because computing power and processing time for ORTS, MSTS, TRSE5 is not an issue. I am using TRSE5 Ver. 06958.
                            That is a very old version of TSRE5! Goku's last version was 0.7.012. I suggest that you try that, or one of Eric's v0.8.00x

                            Cheers,
                            Ged



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                            • lvlender
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                              • Feb 2024
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                              #15
                              at your suggestion, I just updated to v.8002. 🙂

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