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  • dkingsburg
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 564
    • Cabot, Arkansas
    • MSOR

    #1

    Loose Consist Cars Not Showing up in Activities.

    On the Lehigh Valley Route many Loose Consists are not Showing Up in the Activities. Some do But the Majority Do Not! These are Activity Consists that are loaded when the Activity is Loaded. They Show up in the Activity Consists File. But Not in the Activity Itself.
    The AI Consists Load and Run Correctly but Many of the Activity Consists Do Not.
    DaveK
  • derekmorton
    5500 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 5699
    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
    • ORTS

    #2
    Post an OR log for us to look at.

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    • dkingsburg
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 564
      • Cabot, Arkansas
      • MSOR

      #3
      It Appears that Only Loose Consists Close to the Starting Point are the Only Ones that Show Up.
      DaveK

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      • dcarleton
        1000 Post Veteran


        • Nov 2008
        • 1004
        • MSOR

        #4
        Do you have ALL of the necessary cars installed? The OR log would list the ones that are missing.

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        • dkingsburg
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 564
          • Cabot, Arkansas
          • MSOR

          #5
          The 7 Part LV Route is the Only Route that Has Had this Problem.
          DaveK
          Attached Files

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          • dcarleton
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Nov 2008
            • 1004
            • MSOR

            #6
            You need to install all of these. They're available in the file library here.

            10000gal.zip
            6gons.zip
            alcopalv.zip
            bwcx50t.zip
            carstrg1.zip
            cgwgons.zip
            cnj2000.zip
            cnj2005.zip
            CNJ91528.zip
            cnjaba.zip
            cnjcoa11.zip
            cnjcvdhp.zip
            cnjemdsw.zip
            CNJGP7_1.zip
            CNJGP7_2.zip
            cnj-tm.zip
            eastbx1.zip
            ec40ftp2.zip
            el40ftbs.zip
            elflats.zip
            elflats2.zip
            elhp2.zip
            gon14in1.zip
            Ironton.zip
            jwcon.zip
            jwilkes.zip
            LNE_FAB.zip
            lne18167.zip
            lne580.zip
            LNE659.zip
            lv_pass.zip
            lv_sw7.zip
            lv_sw8.zip
            lv214rs2.zip
            LV25772.zip
            lvalcofa.zip
            lvcabs.zip
            LVCARS3.zip
            lvgp9.zip
            lvgp9301.zip
            midw40fb.zip
            N&B.zip
            palv_608.zip
            prr50t.zip
            prrboxnd.zip​

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            • qballbandit
              6500 Post Veteran

              • Jan 2006
              • 6522
              • Elgin Il., USA.
              • MSOR

              #7
              I've had similar occurrences where I place loose consists on track using TSRE, I can see them any time I view the activity paths in TSRE, but they don't show up in OR/MG. Never could figure out why. I will eventually get frustrated and just recreate the activity.
              Neil

              Chicago Railroading Fan

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              • derekmorton
                5500 Post Veteran



                • Nov 1999
                • 5699
                • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                • ORTS

                #8
                Have a look in the log yourself, it notes all of the missing cars.

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                • dkingsburg
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 564
                  • Cabot, Arkansas
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  The Thing is that Even the Consists with All the Correct Cars in them ARE NOT Showing Up in the Activity. I Have Downloaded and Installed Most of the Files Required. All My Other Routes; USA2 Sandpatch, SAL, Florida Funnel, KHP, Shuswap, LHR 1940, LHR4, Bridge Line, Conn River Show All the Loose Consists in the Various Activities. Only the LV Route is Giving me this Problem. On all my Other Routes if a File is Missing I Just Substitute and it Works Fine and Shows Up in the Activity.
                  DaveK

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                  • R. Steele
                    3500 Post Veteran

                    • Feb 2013
                    • 3928
                    • known universe
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Originally posted by qballbandit
                    I've had similar occurrences where I place loose consists on track using TSRE, I can see them any time I view the activity paths in TSRE, but they don't show up in OR/MG. Never could figure out why. I will eventually get frustrated and just recreate the activity.
                    Regarding the above, in my experience loose consists not showing up in OR can mean they are placed incorrectly on the track -- i.e. loose consist too long for a particular siding, etc. --- or operator error in saving the loose consist in TSRE, which has some peculiarities in this regard, unfortunate, but there it is.

                    Apart from the above...loose consists will not show up or only show up partially if cars are missing....the log has numerous warnings of missing cars.​
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                    • eric
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                      • Dec 2002
                      • 9583
                      • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                      • English, SQL
                      • General

                      #11
                      ORTS does appear to be less forgiving about what fits when it comes to loose consists.. MSTS would show as many cars as it could, but ORTS seems to be an all or nothing situation, so the placement and the length have to be very carefully worked out.
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                      • derekmorton
                        5500 Post Veteran



                        • Nov 1999
                        • 5699
                        • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                        • ORTS

                        #12
                        >The Thing is that Even the Consists with All the Correct Cars in them ARE NOT Showing Up in the Activity

                        Post a log file instead of complaining, it can be fixed.

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                        • dcarleton
                          1000 Post Veteran


                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1004
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          He says he has "most" of the necessary cars installed. That won't cut it. When OR loads loose consists, if it gets to a loose consist where none of the cars has been installed, it stops trying to load loose consists. So you'll see the first few consists, and then none.

                          Install ALL of the required cars, then try again. If something doesn't work, post the OR log file here.

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                          • dkingsburg
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 564
                            • Cabot, Arkansas
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            This problem is only on the V2 Lehigh Valley Route. No Other Routes are Giving me this Problem. If Cars are Missing and I Substitute Other Cars the Consists Still Show Up. On the LV Route Even when the Consist Has all the Correct Cars with No Changes they Aren't Showing Up. As Soon as I Install an Activity I Start OR and Use the 8 Key to See if the Loose Consists are Where they Should Be and they Are! But not on the LV, Also only the Consists Nearest the Activity Starting Point are Showing up!
                            DaveK

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                            • slipperman
                              3500 Post Veteran



                              • May 2010
                              • 3787
                              • Worksop, UK
                              • MSOR

                              #15
                              Hi Dave,
                              Why don't you post the OR Log file, as Derek requested earlier today?
                              If an activity has some loose consists which aren't showing up, there MUST be a reason! The log should be a big help.

                              Cheers,
                              Ged

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