Troubles for a new TRSE user

[agentatascadero]

Hello folks,
It's been challenging, but I have managed to install TSRE and have a look around, and it is very impressive, indeed.
My issue may be related to my long term use of Conbuilder, where one is able to check and alter consists in activities, while being able to view the player and all the AI traffic, and even loose consists.
I've so far been unable to find player or AI consists in TSRE, only loose consists. When I attempt to click on "activity consists", nothing happens, and if anything does, it is loose consists that pops up.
Is there a way to access player and AI consists here?

Another issue.....when I attempted to use the help tab, I got only error messages, nothing was there.

Thanks for looking....I have great hopes for this program...it is huge to be able to see all equipment contemplated for a run, especially as compared to doing it blind over at Conbuilder.

AA

[derekmorton]

I can find the player, AI and loose consists by looking inside the act file.
Some you have to dig for.
I like to check the rolling stock before I run an activity.

Player consist:-

Act file,
Player_Service_Definition ( "EB BNSF SD60M's APW"

Service file,
Train_Config ( "BNSF SD60M's APW" )

This is the consist file BNSF SD60M's APW.con

[Robkeb]

I've so far been unable to find player or AI consists in TSRE, only loose consists. When I attempt to click on "activity consists", nothing happens, and if anything does, it is loose consists that pops up.

I had the same question lately; an answer can be found at the TRSE-forum: http://www.onrails.eu/viewtopic.php?...1&p=1043#p1043

[niknak]

I've kept ConBuilder and use it to easily identify the names of the Player and AI consists which I then seek out and amend as necessary using TSRE Consist Editor. (which, if I'm honest. could be a lot more user-friendly)

[slipperman]

Hi,
Goku's reply makes sense as, usually, the only location which specifies Loose Consists is the .act file.

As an alternative to using ConBuilder, MSTS_Actman may be used to list the files, including consists, used by a specified activity - use the "Selected Activity Files Used" button.

Cheers,
Ged

[agentatascadero]

Thanks for the replies, guys. It appears TSRE "needs help" when it comes to finding the correct consists to work with, I found Conbuilder to be a big help in this area, but will also check out MSTS_Actman. I'm finding this process tedious, but, to be able to see what you're about to place in a consist is very helpful.....especially as compared to my old routine.....select items "blind" from CB, then have to run the activity in order to see what I had done.

AA

[crstagg]

Hello folks,
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I've so far been unable to find player or AI consists in TSRE, only loose consists. When I attempt to click on "activity consists", nothing happens, and if anything does, it is loose consists that pops up.
Is there a way to access player and AI consists here?

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AA

Seems like I already answered that question either in this forum or on Goku's forum. BUT I cannot find it. And I cannot remember how it is done w/o having TSRE-CE running. We are on vacation and I only have my Surface Go with me. I can and have run ORTS on the Surface but with the limited HD space I do not care to keep a copy of my TS installs on it. So no reason to have TSRE on the Surface either. Will try to remember to post here when we get back home in 5 days.

[agentatascadero]

Thank you...will stand by.

AA

[jdonald1]

On the "Show:" line you should have a choice of "Consists" or "Activity Consists". Selecting "Consists" should give you a list of all consists in your MSTS Consist folder. Are you saying that there is no choice to select "Consists"? If so, check that you are selecting the correct folder containing Trainset when you start to open TSRE-CE (c:1msts in my case). Don't know if this helps or not.

Don

[jdonald1]

Just noticed should have said "correct folder containing Trains" not Trainset.

Don

[agentatascadero]

On the "Show:" line you should have a choice of "Consists" or "Activity Consists". Selecting "Consists" should give you a list of all consists in your MSTS Consist folder. Are you saying that there is no choice to select "Consists"? If so, check that you are selecting the correct folder containing Trainset when you start to open TSRE-CE (c:1msts in my case). Don't know if this helps or not.

Don

I have both choices available. I had initially thought "activity consists" should be similar to the Conbuilder function, where one can check the player consist, and associated AI consists.
I'm warming up to the idea of using TSRE and Conbuilder as "partners" in order to accomplish the task of creating consists of one's own choice.
I believe that, using this method, I'll be able to accomplish my goals.
Thanks again to all who contributed.

AA

[crstagg]

Seems like I already answered that question either in this forum or on Goku's forum. BUT I cannot find it. And I cannot remember how it is done w/o having TSRE-CE running. We are on vacation and I only have my Surface Go with me. I can and have run ORTS on the Surface but with the limited HD space I do not care to keep a copy of my TS installs on it. So no reason to have TSRE on the Surface either. Will try to remember to post here when we get back home in 5 days.

Back home with TSRE-CE open. I must have been thinking of something else. YES, there is no way using just the TSRE-CE to select an activity then see a list of Player and Traffic consists. One could open both the TSRE-AE and the TSRE-CE at the same time. Use the TSRE -AE to find the Player and the Traffic consists. The player can be found fairly easy, but finding the traffic is quite complicated. Which ever one must remember the CON name and then go to the TSRE-CE and locate the consist vice with ConBuilder all one need to do is click on either the Player or one of the Traffic CONs listed for that ACT and it is opened in the CE editor.

TSRE_AE process
Locate Player:
Open TSRE
Select install
Select Route
Menu "tools" then "Activity" (or F4 key)
Select Activity from pulldown
Click on Open Service Editor
note that the Player Service is selected.
Player consist is listed on right side of of the SE dialog

To find Traffic
from the point of finding the Player Consist
Notice in the SE dialog on the left side is a list of services
to the right are two columns with check marks the first column is named "This" and the other "Any"
This refers to the selected Activity so the one with check marks are the Player and the Traffic Services.
Select one of the other(s) with checks and you will select a Traffic Service
No the Consist Listed in right side of the SE dialog is that Traffic Consist.
Now you have the name of a Traffic consist.

If any one knows an easier way to go this in the TSRE please post it.

To do the same in ConBuilder:
Open CB to install
Open "Consists from Activities dialog by clicking icon that looks like a pie chart or from Menu choose "Tests" and "Activities"
Select Route
Select Activity
Consists will be listed in the bottom box of dialog with Player or Traffic annotation
(Missing consists will be listed in top right box of the dialog)
To open a consist in the editor just double click on name.

[jdonald1]

Can't help with TSRE but in a similar situation I find that RouteRiter can provide most of the information connected to an activity.
Select your route, select Activities/Stock tab, select Check Acts for Selected Route tab. First you get a page showing missing stock (if there is any). Exit that page and you get a spread sheet showing Traffic, Consists, Services and Paths for each Activity. Clicking on a consist name will show the stock for that Activity. The first consist listed for an activity is the Player Consist the rest are Traffic consists. Click on the Activity name will show all the Loose Consist items for that Activity. Unfortunately it is just one long list of stock items not broken down by each Loose Consist name or number.

Don