Consists created in TSRE tend to crash the MSTS Editors & Tools

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  • crstagg
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    #16
    Originally posted by crstagg
    I do not have the rolling stock so I created a Consist with TSRE using the same file name and description name. No Problem. Consist appeared in the MSTS AE consist editor.

    What version of TSRE are you using?

    I was using TSRE v0.698
    Upgraded to version v0.7001

    NOW I can duplicate your problem.

    It is verion .7 of TSRE CE

    Posted problem on TSRE Support forum
    Still no reply or acknowledgement on TSRE support forum. Goku must be on vacation or has abandoned TSRE.
    Charles

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    • crstagg
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      #17
      Originally posted by dgionet
      I have found out some months ago that MSTS Activity Editor cannot handle railroad stocks using only DDS textures while there is no such issue with TSRE. If you have such rolling material with only DDS textures, If you need to use the MSTS AE, make sure to convert DDS textures to ACE ( works with AceIt) and remove the DDS textures from your folder before opening the MSTS AE (make backups of these folders before deletion). Once the work done with the MSTS AE, you can re-install these folders for running your activities.

      This is how I have done the Trainsimulations' CN Ruel sub template for Activity Generator (AG). It was a long process but it worked.

      Hope this helps

      Denis
      Denis,
      The problem reported by the OP of this thread has nothing to do with DDS vs ACE. It has to do with CON files created after version 0.698 of TSRE.
      Charles

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      • Guest

        #18
        Originally posted by sburr
        freezes when I start it, regardless of the Open Rails install I'm using,
        Do you have a lot of consists/rolling stock? When I had 4967 consists and various trainsets in my previous HDD, TSRE Con Editor would say 'Not Responding' at startup. I waited for some time (didn't click the window or anything, make sure you do so as well), and it was able to load. Try launching it again by keeping just 2-3 consists and one kind of rolling stock only (e.g. the ACELA folder.) You may also try redownloading the AppData (to do so, delete everything except TSRE5.exe and settings.txt where you have kept TSRE and re-run the program).
        Hope this helps.
        Last edited by Guest; 08-17-2021, 09:02.

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        • crstagg
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          #19
          Originally posted by sburr
          I appear to have a problem getting the new consist editor to work at all, with any of my installations (I have 4). I can get Conbuilder to work fine, but the NAVS and rolling stock created for OR only doesn't show up. I'd like to get the TSRE based consist editor working, but it freezes when I start it, regardless of the Open Rails install I'm using,
          Steve,
          Do you have a file in your TSRE5 folder named cerecent.txt ? If not, create one with a Text editor. Type the path to each install root folder, as in C:\MSTS, each on a new line. 4 installs = 4 lines. Run the TSRE-CE batch file and you should have a list of installs to choose from.
          Charles

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          • Guest

            #20
            Originally posted by crstagg
            Still no reply or acknowledgement on TSRE support forum. Goku must be on vacation or has abandoned TSRE.
            Posted two threads on the forum two weeks ago. Haven't yet appeared, including https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...ight=Rain+snow

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            • crstagg
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              #21
              Originally posted by Hidetoshi6721
              Posted two threads on the forum two weeks ago. Haven't yet appeared, including https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...ight=Rain+snow

              THAT is on this forum. I am referring to Goku's personal TSRE support forum at http://www.onrails.eu/index.php
              Charles

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              • Guest

                #22
                Originally posted by crstagg
                THAT is on this forum. I am referring to Goku's personal TSRE support forum at http://www.onrails.eu/index.php
                I am referring to THAT only. I had posted two threads on the onrails forum two weeks ago, they are awaiting moderation till date. By the link, I meant the topic.

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                • geepster775
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                  #23
                  Using TSRE 0.7002 (the current latest) I was able to create a brand new consist in TSRE and then open and edit it again in either Conbuilder or the MSTS consist editor in the AE
                  My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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                  • geepster775
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by dgionet
                    If you have such rolling material with only DDS textures, If you need to use the MSTS AE, make sure to convert DDS textures to ACE ( works with AceIt) and remove the DDS textures from your folder before opening the MSTS AE
                    When you start suggesting people need to (not just simply replace, but outright) delete newer texture formats to allow a totally outdated activity/consist editor to function, you are venturing into dangerous advice territory. You better be fully aware of any unknown (to you) dependencies you might be breaking.

                    What is your workaround for when car names are greater than 30 characters, which the MSTS AE can't handle either? Pen a fix that instructs readers to rename the wagon files? Is everyone going to have to do the same so that the shared activity still maintains coordination between developer and user after its distributed? What happens when these long names are embedded in activities as loose consists in the 'factory-supplied' activities? Everyone gonna change those files, too?

                    These roadblocks tend to be placed ON PURPOSE. To force a new product learning curve upon the masses. You are doing nobody any favors by charting out labor-intensive workarounds just to conform to the past.
                    My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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                    • Vince
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                      #25
                      The model creator today wants good render detail and so uses DDS textures.
                      I think TSRE editors handle DDS textured models but I could be wrong having never used the TSRE Activity Editors.

                      This could be a viable alternative to the MSTS editors.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Hidetoshi6721
                        I am referring to THAT only. I had posted two threads on the onrails forum two weeks ago, they are awaiting moderation till date. By the link, I meant the topic.
                        Goku hasn't appeared on his own forums in weeks, and hasn't been here since mid-July. Perhaps he's on holiday or military service...
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