BNSF Emporia Sub?

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  • NW 2156
    2000 Post Veteran

    • Aug 2007
    • 2290
    • Carolina's

    #1

    BNSF Emporia Sub?

    Hi,

    I'm just wondering if there are any known better versions of the BNSF Emporia Sub and Argentine Yard/ Santa Fe Junction available for MSTS/ORTS?

    I recently spent 3 weeks for a work assignment in Olathe/Overland Park KS. I spent a day recording trains in Olathe and spent some time visiting the Argentine Yard and Santa Fe Junction. Just seems odd we don't have a modern day representation of this busy section of the Southern Transcon Route?

    This was my second time visiting Kansas City. Last time I was over in KCMO out by the airport for 3 weeks. Didn't get any rail action on that occasion unfortunately.

    I actually fell in love with Kansas and the Emporia Sub. And I think I've seen this video about 10 times now lol.

    Robert
    Last edited by NW 2156; 10-28-2026, 13:56.
  • frliss
    1000 Post Veteran



    • Mar 2011
    • 1078
    • MP44.2 Worcester, MA
    • General

    #2
    Robert,

    Fantastic video!

    Fred

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    • wwhall
      Senior Member


      • May 2010
      • 652
      • Kansas
      • MSOR

      #3
      I know the Kansas area quite well. The sad fact is that there is not a single MSTS/OR route that is a well-detailed, scenically accurate route of any railroad on the American Great Plains. The closest thing is the excellent Blackfoot 3 route of the Canadian National in Saskatchewan and Alberta. In Kansas, the BNSF Southern Transcon, the La Junta Sub, or the UP Golden State Route or the old Kansas Pacific would be great candidates for some interesting routes, not to mention a bunch of secondary lines and shortlines.

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      • NW 2156
        2000 Post Veteran

        • Aug 2007
        • 2290
        • Carolina's

        #4


        I've quickly become quite a fan of the Kansas City area and the old KCS!

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        • SD9043MAC
          Senior Member


          • Dec 2005
          • 324

          #5
          I haven’t touched it in probably a year but I started a section of the Kansas Pacific and have track laid from Sharon Springs to Oakley. One of these days I will get back to work on it…it after all is the line that ran through my hometown!

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          • NW 2156
            2000 Post Veteran

            • Aug 2007
            • 2290
            • Carolina's

            #6
            Definitely needs to be more high quality KCS stuff for the sims.

            Shame this area isn't well represented.

            Robert

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            • Jdark34
              Senior Member

              • Feb 2011
              • 910
              • alexander city alabama
              • English
              • General

              #7
              i got that dvd from pentrex 10 years ago

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              • EvolutionMan
                Member

                • Jul 2025
                • 79
                • ORTS

                #8
                Don't forget that a Meridian Speedway route exists...there's a few activities for it in the F/L. There is also the nice Kansas City, Ozarks and Southern Railway route which is a more recent work, but it's set in the steam era.

                To be fair, there is a La Junta Sub route, but it could be updated if it's trying to meet others' standards. This is not my area of expertise, though...

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                • Jdark34
                  Senior Member

                  • Feb 2011
                  • 910
                  • alexander city alabama
                  • English
                  • General

                  #9
                  my next pentrex dvd for christmas will be ultimate chicago

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                  • johnnyboy99
                    Senior Member


                    • Nov 2014
                    • 373
                    • General

                    #10
                    Bob Wirth's ATSF transcon routes indeed could use improvement:
                    The Chillicothe Subdivision is missing the GM&O line that goes through Corwith and follows the ATSF to Joliet (the older GMO North Lines route from Jim Duncan does have it). Also the CBQ line at Galesburg could ideally be a bit longer for full-length trains to seamlessly "cross over and under" the bridges from the perspective of the player train. The CBQ line going through Fort Madison is oddly missing as well
                    Marceline Subdivision could use longer and more complete connection tracks in Kansas City like what Jim Duncan's older Marceline Sub has
                    Emporia Subdivision could at least use some more of the Douglas Subdivision which connects at Augusta, the Olathe connection to BN/SLSF, and a bit more of the Arkansas City Sub as well (for seamless AI train appearances from the player train's perspective)
                    Clovis Subdivision could use a longer SP Tucumcari line also for seamless ai train appearances from the player train
                    Clovis/Gallup/Glorietta have a rather dated depiction of the Belen yard that doesn't have as much fueling tracks as it did by 1996

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