Blackfoot 3 mileposts

[geepster775]

Does anyone know why when traveling west the mileposts show correctly, but when traveling east, there are multiple locations where the mileposts are interrupted and do not show in the track monitor?


Eastward direction, mileposts missing




Westward direction, mileposts in the same area are present on track monitor

[eric]

That happens with me often in-game on other routes...

I don't know if it's just a memory issue or something doesn't load correctly along the route, but when I look in the editor, the mileposts are correctly placed and defined.

[wwhall]

Blackfoot 3 is one of my favorite routes, but my copy of it has a weird "break" in the track database or something just west of MP 104. AI trains will run across it just fine, I can create paths over it (it is invisible in the OR Track Viewer), but a player train running westbound over it gets an "End Of Authority" message (shows as the "red line" in the HUD display). To run west over the spot, the player must switch to Manual mode. I don't know whether or not this is just a "glitch" in my installation of Blackfoot 3. I've made a lot of additions and mods to buildings, etc. on my Blackfoot 3, but I've never touched the track database or any trackwork on the route. I'm reluctant to reload the route because of all of the time that I've spent modifying buildings, etc. I've seen the "disappearing mileposts" thing a few times, too, and I often wondered if my problem with the route was the cause of that.

[qballbandit]

I never had that issue, Wade. I run the heck out of that route, and have modified the route upside down and sideways.

[dcarleton]

Blackfoot 3 is one of my favorite routes, but my copy of it has a weird "break" in the track database or something just west of MP 104.

I don't run that route at all because of that. It's a beautiful route, but its creator allowed himself to be convinced by an "experienced" MSTS activity creator to add a pair of zero-degree nodes to "fix" the broken coupler bug in MSTS. Since all interactives were already in place, that "fix" broke the TDB.

[wwhall]

I don't run that route at all because of that. It's a beautiful route, but its creator allowed himself to be convinced by an "experienced" MSTS activity creator to add a pair of zero-degree nodes to "fix" the broken coupler bug in MSTS. Since all interactives were already in place, that "fix" broke the TDB.

Is there a "fix" for that problem? Thanks.

[geepster775]

There were 2 versions uploaded to the library here, the original one with the 'unhelpful MSTS fix', which was taken down and another version lacking the MP 104 zero degree nodes was put up in its place about 3 weeks later (and is still up, evidently). This was the play when it became apparent that the entire downloading community could not be expected to delicately remove those last two zero-degrees from their individual downloaded copy.

I do not know if backtracking the mods at the builder level is still an issue with the second version, as it appears more zero degree nodes exist around MP 43-ish

[wwhall]

I have the "Blackfoot 3" version, but I don't know if I have the version that you say was the replacement issued 3 weeks after the "first" version of V3. So, the question, if I download the version of Blackfoot 3 in the library, can I substitute its .tdb file for the one in my "current" V3 of the route (if there are different dates on the.tdb file)?

[eric]

can I substitute its .tdb file

That's a maybe....

There's a linkage between the TDB and the World files with regard to UID's as part of the track shapes.

If there were no changes to those between versions of the TDB, you'll be OK.

If the UID's in the World File are different from the TDB.... in the words of our friend Vince, "you'll slag your route."

Keep backups and give it a try

[charland]

I've seen this in pretty much every route, works one time but not the next. Have to think it's Open Rails noy reading a file correctly.

Paul :-)