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  • landnrailroader
    4000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 4171
    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
    • ORTS

    #1

    Signal Help please

    Friends,

    I am starting to minimally detail a route that has signals. I would like to use Travis Ebner's Southern Rwy. signals because he did use the correct rules, but when I place a signal, I do not get the indicator on the track which would be used to select which signal head controls which route etc. Then I went to another route that I had successfully placed signals on a few years back using MSTS/RE and while the indicators were present, and I could select them, I did not get any new window or other item that would enable me to make the selection. I am using a older version of TSRE just because it is stable. V8.005F.. Could anyone suggest what might be the problem. The route is the 2nd district, CNO&TP and Travis used the newer type hooded signals with the old rules, which did not change with NS, at least in this area. Since he did not include searchlight signals with these rules, I may go back and use the same signals as I successfully used with the 3rd district that I released a few years back and which was done with MSTS/RE. I have carefully read the instructions about signals/TSRE but the lack of the indicator negates any further editing. I will go ahead and finish minimally detailing the route along with two others I have in the works and maybe an answer to this issue will come up. Looks like Travis has left us and I wish he had done the searchlight signals with Southern rules.Southern used route signaling as opposed to speed signaling. Thus if you got a red/green indication that meant diverging route proceed and the engineer had to know what the allowed speed for that particular location was.

    In days of old, when I was supervisor of track geometry inspection on the SR, there were different types of signals used here and there but the rules were all the same. For example, on the NO&NE in-line color lights were used, likewise on the lines between DC and Atlanta. Searchlights were used on the CNO&TP, all three districts.

    Jerry Sullivan
    Last edited by landnrailroader; 06-09-2026, 14:38.
  • ebnertra000
    1500 Post Veteran


    • Jun 2013
    • 1778
    • Minnesota

    #2
    I left? When did I do that?

    What do you mean by 'indicator'? The red pyramid above the track that used to pop up for signals? You can get that back in the settings, something about 'renderTrItems' I think. You don't get the menu on the left side of the screen when you select the signal itself, either? There should be a button called 'Show List' over there that will bring up the menu to attach signal heads and the like.

    Also, I can make Southern-rules searchlights. It's pretty easy, actually, and the scripts need to a patch, anyway. I just need to know what kind of searchlight they use. I'm assuming it's GRS, but they made two types

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    • landnrailroader
      4000 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 4171
      • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
      • ORTS

      #3
      Travis,

      They used both types of searchlights but I have a contact and I will try to find out which type was used on the CNO&TP if possible. If not, I suggest using the GRS type because GRS supplied most of the early signals. Now, I am not sure if US&S still exists, and GRS was bought by a European firm several years ago. The general period that I am covering, and which I also covered when I did the 3rd district is the 1960-1980 period except that I include segments that were abandoned after the 1963 work to eliminate all remaining tunnels except 4 (there were 27 of them, 23 on the 2nd district which I am setting up now. I've also incuded several branches and independent short lines that connected and now are gone. When I graduated high school in 1956, A friend and I traveled US-23 which at the time paralled a lot of this line and 2 of those lines still existed.

      Also for whatever strange reason, the indicators (red things on the track) started showing up, and currently I have your tombstone style colorlights installed and they work, but the searchlightes would be preferable for the time period.

      Jerry

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      • landnrailroader
        4000 Post Veteran



        • Nov 1999
        • 4171
        • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
        • ORTS

        #4
        Travis,

        I have confirmed that the searchight signals that were most common on the Southern were the GRS brand. You may already have done them, but could we also have a set of speed signals using US&S signals. Several of my routes are old L&N routes and the L&N was a US&S user. Specifically the main stem, Louisville to Nashville & several others.

        I checked and you did make a set, which I have, using color light signals. This would be correct for the Chattanooga line which I have done the track for, including branches. This was originally a NC&StL route. L&N controlled the "NC" for many years and merged it into the L&N system about 1957 or so and the colorlights were in use well into the 1990's. So if we could have that same rule set using US&S searchlights I would appreciate it.

        Jerry
        Last edited by landnrailroader; 06-11-2026, 07:29.

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