Marias Kootenaii Route problem please?

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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #1

    Marias Kootenaii Route problem please?

    Hi everybody.

    OK, I know I'm stupid, but I have had this Route Running Once alredy
    and have made no changes to It.

    Can somebody please hava a look at the Log File please?

    And tell me what I'm doing wrong please?

    Many thanks

    Paul.

    OpenRailsLog.zip
  • derekmorton
    5500 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 5699
    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
    • ORTS

    #2
    This line says it all:>
    Error: System.IO.InvalidDataException: Player train original position not clear

    It means that OR doesn't understand where the start is?

    It means one of 2 things,

    1. the activity is corrupt,
    2. the start position is not clear.

    Fixing this is reinstall or user the activity editor to check the starting position.

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    • pcohen
      1000 Post Veteran


      • Jul 2007
      • 1294
      • Wrexham North Wales UK

      #3
      Hi Derek, thanks for your reply.

      Will have another look at It.

      Thanks

      Paul.

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      • oper190
        1000 Post Veteran



        • May 2010
        • 1498
        • Port Charlotte, FL
        • English
        • MSOR

        #4
        Originally posted by pcohen
        And tell me what I'm doing wrong please?
        Paul and all, as prior posted in another thread, that path is set in the wrong direction, and thus very short, only a very short consist can fit on it. It actually runs south, from Athol, not north and east to Shelby. I had to run it in the MSTS Activity Editor and reversed the path several times to get it go in the right direction, and going to Shelby.

        Here's my corrected path: ATHOL-SHELBY.zip
        Attached Files
        Last edited by oper190; 12-03-2025, 11:41.
        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
        Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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        • pcohen
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #5
          Hi Geary.

          Thanks very much for the Updated file.

          Paul.

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          • pcohen
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Jul 2007
            • 1294
            • Wrexham North Wales UK

            #6
            Hi Geary. sorry to be a nuisance again.

            I have replaced/Overwritten the Athol - Shelby zip and the Route now seems to be Running fine. I have run from Athol to swamp Creek,
            some three Hours running Time without Any problems.

            However, when loading the activity, It Is still displaying as a "load error".

            Not sure what to do with It.

            Thanks

            Paul.

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            • oper190
              1000 Post Veteran



              • May 2010
              • 1498
              • Port Charlotte, FL
              • English
              • MSOR

              #7
              Originally posted by pcohen
              However, when loading the activity, It Is still displaying as a "load error".

              Not sure what to do with It.
              Paul at a loss here, post the OR Log after trying to load the activity, that might shed some light on the issue.
              I have started the activity after changing to my path and so far all okay, after 30min. of driving, so haven't gotten that far yet. I'm using one of my own consists that I know is okay. My own log is not showing anything major that should cause a problem like that.
              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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              • pcohen
                1000 Post Veteran


                • Jul 2007
                • 1294
                • Wrexham North Wales UK

                #8
                Hi Geary, apologies for not attaching Log File//Now attached.

                Since sending this post, Have now completed the Route Atholl - Shelby almost at Whitefish and saved. Almost 3HRS 30 Minutes.

                Running great!

                Thanks

                Paul.

                OpenRailsLog.zip

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                • oper190
                  1000 Post Veteran



                  • May 2010
                  • 1498
                  • Port Charlotte, FL
                  • English
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Paul - Which Route are you having problem with. You are mentioning Marias-Kootenaii but your Log is for Gold-Spike-X? These are two distinctly different Routes.

                  The log shows sound errors and a few objects, nothing I am aware of that should cause a problem running an Activity. The sounds are with the NS wagons which might be cause the error notice at startup. I have them as well so will check their files.
                  I haven't run Gold-Spike yet, just downloaded.

                  Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                  Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                  • oper190
                    1000 Post Veteran



                    • May 2010
                    • 1498
                    • Port Charlotte, FL
                    • English
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Paul - I just did a test with the NS Heavyweight coach set you used - no sound errors reported, with a simple change to the Set's Sound folder.
                    Replace this with the file in the Set's Sound Folder; sthrnobserv.zip

                    Also it requires you have the complete Default Scotsman folder in your Trainset Folder for sounds.
                    Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                    Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                    • pcohen
                      1000 Post Veteran


                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1294
                      • Wrexham North Wales UK

                      #11
                      Hi Geary, my apologies I did mean the Gold-Spike Route.


                      Many thanks

                      Paul.

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                      • pcohen
                        1000 Post Veteran


                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1294
                        • Wrexham North Wales UK

                        #12
                        Hi everybody, back again

                        Really don't understand this, must be jinxed.

                        Having Re-Installed a new Gold Spike Route that worked OK before.

                        Now, I am back to the stage where there are no Roads again. Didn't get far enough Yesterday when I tested It.

                        I have re-Installed Scale Road and UKFineScale but no Improvement.

                        Log File attached:- OpenRailsLog.zip

                        Thanks again, if anybody has the patience with me.

                        Paul

                        P.S. my apologies, forgot Newroads
                        Attached Files
                        Last edited by pcohen; 12-07-2025, 04:59.

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                        • baldwin
                          6000 Post Veteran


                          • Nov 1999
                          • 6358
                          • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                          • ORTS

                          #13
                          Hi Paul
                          You stated "Having Re-Installed a new Gold Spike Route that worked OK before."
                          If it was working why did you re-install?.

                          Gold Spike is expecting a Global/Shapes folder that has the default road shapes in it. Looking at the log the required shapes are not in the expected location. The route also requires New Roads to be installed.

                          Mervyn
                          Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                          • pcohen
                            1000 Post Veteran


                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1294
                            • Wrexham North Wales UK

                            #14
                            Hi Mervyn, thanks again.

                            Because I have reinstalled a new/fresh ORTSContent Folder, and was Starting afresh with a New set of Routes.

                            Thanks

                            Paul.

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                            • baldwin
                              6000 Post Veteran


                              • Nov 1999
                              • 6358
                              • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                              • ORTS

                              #15
                              Hi Paul
                              A fresh ORContent install will require all of the track and road sets that you had in the old one. You cannot just add a route to an install and expect it to work without also installing the other requirements for a route, Gold Spike needs Xtracks or Atracks and New Roads. Is there any particular reason for a fresh ORContent install?.

                              Mervyn
                              Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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