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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #1

    ALLTRAIN Route Help Please?

    Hi everybody, me again.

    Currently I have MSTS Installed With It's Default Routes and 10 Routes of my own.
    Plus any Required Aditions, All of which are running Normally,

    I have Downloaded the Route "Alltrain" which looks amazing but It only Runs for a few Minutes.

    Not sure what needs adding to make It work correctly.

    Have attached the Log File. Any help with this please?

    Many thanks

    Paul
    OpenRailsLog.zip
  • kapitaen
    Senior Member

    • May 2010
    • 331
    • Germany
    • German + a little bit English
    • MSOR

    #2
    This is the error:
    Warning: System.IO.FileLoadException: C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\Alltrain\WORLD\w-006351+015010.w ---> System.Exception: Unrecognized header "
    Jan

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    • pcohen
      1000 Post Veteran


      • Jul 2007
      • 1294
      • Wrexham North Wales UK

      #3
      Hi Jan, thanks for your reply.

      But, What do I do with It please?

      Many thanks

      Paul.

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      • slipperman
        3500 Post Veteran



        • May 2010
        • 3787
        • Worksop, UK
        • MSOR

        #4
        Hi Paul,
        I suggest that you may have installed AllTrain v1.1 (fileID 88213) then applied the v2 upgrade (fileID 90255).
        In v1.1, World File w-006351+015010.w file contains 213KB, 4991 lines
        In v2, the same file contains absolutely nothing!
        That is the reason for Open Rails rejection.
        As for WHY it is empty, you'll need to ask the author.
        There is nothing YOU can do to fix it - you could try deleting it, but who knows what other problems that will cause?!
        Even files w-006351+015009.w and w-006351+015011.w are totally different between v1.1 and v2.

        Cheers,
        Ged

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        • pcohen
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #5
          HI Ged, thanks again, now up and running again, think I forgot to Install the Version 2 Update?

          Many thanks

          Paul.

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          • pcohen
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Jul 2007
            • 1294
            • Wrexham North Wales UK

            #6
            Hi Everybody.

            Well, Activity "round trip" crashed again.

            Having removed and Reinstalled "Alltrain V1 & V2"

            Think I might leave this One alone.

            Thanks

            Paul. OpenRailsLog.zip

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            • kapitaen
              Senior Member

              • May 2010
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              • German + a little bit English
              • MSOR

              #7
              It's the same Error:
              Warning: System.IO.FileLoadException: C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\Alltrain\WORLD\w-006351+015010.w ---> System.Exception: Unrecognized header "
              Delete w-006351+015010.w and try again. In the worst case, you will have an empty world file that does not produce any errors.
              Jan

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              • slipperman
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                • May 2010
                • 3787
                • Worksop, UK
                • MSOR

                #8
                Hi Paul,
                With respect, Jan, that doesn't help!!
                IT DOESN'T WORK! - OR still crashes with a 'fatal error' before it starts.
                Yes, I've just tried v1.1 (which is OK), then v1.1 + v2 upgrade, the v1.1 + v2 upgrade + deleted World file \w-006351+015010.w

                Cheers,
                Ged

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                • kapitaen
                  Senior Member

                  • May 2010
                  • 331
                  • Germany
                  • German + a little bit English
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Originally posted by slipperman
                  With respect, Jan, that doesn't help!!
                  IT DOESN'T WORK! - OR still crashes with a 'fatal error' before it starts.
                  Sorry, but that's just not true. I have now downloaded and installed the route. The empty w-006351+015010.w file causes an error because it has no content. The header and Tr_Worldfile are missing. After deleting them, the task loads. Loading time is 5 minutes because the task contains 275 AI trains. The log.txt file has 773 lines of error messages.

                  Screen Shot 11-03-25 at 09.32 PM.jpg
                  Screen Shot 11-03-25 at 09.26 PM.jpg
                  You can write the following content to w, and it will not generate an error mess.

                  SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0w0t______

                  Tr_Worldfile ( )
                  OpenRailsLog.txt

                  Jan

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                  • oper190
                    1000 Post Veteran



                    • May 2010
                    • 1498
                    • Port Charlotte, FL
                    • English
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    I have AllTrain 1.1 and it runs fine, might I suggest trying that alone first to make sure the route works, before adding the V2 update.

                    Edit - V2 Is not an Update but a new completely new Route - DO NOT Overwrite V2 into V1.1
                    Last edited by oper190; 11-03-2025, 15:29.
                    Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                    Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                    • oper190
                      1000 Post Veteran



                      • May 2010
                      • 1498
                      • Port Charlotte, FL
                      • English
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      Just downloaded V2 - appears to be a complete route, so am installing separately without overriding V1.1 - will post result once done.
                      Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                      Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                      • oper190
                        1000 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 1498
                        • Port Charlotte, FL
                        • English
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        Okay V1.1 and V2 are two separate and complete routes. V2 runs fine stand alone.
                        They use the same Route Name, so I installed V2 in a different OR install from V1.1 and both can be run. V2 has hideous low frames (40s) rates compare to V1.1 (120s) doing an explore in each. Note there are totally different paths in both versions. So I suggest picking just one to run, or install both but in different OR installs as I've done.

                        Edit- Also after a save and going to Resume, all saves from both V1.1 and V2 will appear and will run. ( That was a surprise to me. )


                        Paul - in you log I see missing rolling stock, did you install the Trainsets that came with the route in the proper folder?


                        Geary
                        Last edited by oper190; 11-03-2025, 16:17.
                        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                        Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                        • derekmorton
                          5500 Post Veteran



                          • Nov 1999
                          • 5699
                          • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                          • ORTS

                          #13
                          >After deleting them, the task loads. Loading time is 5 minutes because the task contains 275 AI trains.

                          Which means that it will never run in MSTS. ( for long )

                          Time to move to OpenRails.

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                          • slipperman
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                            • May 2010
                            • 3787
                            • Worksop, UK
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            Hi Geary,
                            Thanks, mate It goes to show that you can't believe everything you read! My apologies to everybody, especially Paul, for the bad info!
                            I did notice that v2 was larger than v1.1 but gave the word 'update' precedence. I should have considered that the author's native language might not be English.
                            I agree that v2 runs without the 'fatal error', but the log also reports a warning regarding file w-006351+015010.w.

                            Cheers,
                            Ged

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                            • oper190
                              1000 Post Veteran



                              • May 2010
                              • 1498
                              • Port Charlotte, FL
                              • English
                              • MSOR

                              #15
                              Originally posted by slipperman
                              I agree that v2 runs without the 'fatal error', but the log also reports a warning regarding file w-006351+015010.w.
                              Yah same here, checked it's a file with nothing in it.

                              V2 runs real jerky, so not much fun, so probably stay with just v1.1

                              Here's a little vid :
                              AllTrainV2.zip
                              Last edited by oper190; 11-03-2025, 18:40.
                              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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